Oswald in the Doorway: Why is the preponderance of the evidence dismissed?
May 30, 2015
Updated Nov.1, 2015
Why is it so important for the naysayers to insist that LHO was not in front? Is it to maintain a sliver of doubt that maybe Oswald did actually run from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor as the Warren Commission wants us all to believe?
The answer is simple. It would finally close the book on the framing of Oswald. The Parlor game would be over. JFK researchers would have to change the focus of their analysis. There would no longer be any doubt. It would be 100% proof of the BIG LIE.
One might say that it’s a moot point since the evidence is clear that Oswald was on the first floor at the time of the shooting – but may have gone up to the second floor lunchroom. So why the big fuss? Well, only a fool takes anything in the Warren Report seriously. It sure makes you wonder.
These are facts that no one has discussed. Namely the testimony of Lovelady and Frazier that Lovelady was standing on the steps in front of Frazier and Sarah Stanton. If you believe their testimony, then it must be Oswald on the TOP level (the first floor entrance).
There is ZERO evidence that Lovelady was Doorman. ALL of the evidence (including the pixel analysis of Doorman’s shirt) points to Oswald as Doorman standing on the first floor (TOP level) while LOVELADY WAS STANDING IN FRONT A FEW STEPS BELOW FRAZIER who was standing to the left of Oswald on the TOP level.
The testimony of Frazier and Lovelady has been hidden in plain sight. It is proof that LHO was standing at the entrance to the Doorway since Lovelady was standing on the STEPS in front of Frazier; IT’S THE CLINCHER. HOW COME THIS HAS NOT BEEN A POINT OF DEBATE IN 51 YEARS?
THIS IS ABOUT CLOSING THE BOOK ON ALL THESE LIES:
1) OSWALD SHOT JFK FROM THE 6 FLOOR OF THE TSBD
2) HID THE MANNLICHER-CARCANO,
3) RAN FROM THE 6TH TO THE 2ND FLOOR,
4) BOUGHT A COKE,
5) WAS NOT BREATHING HARD WHEN SEEN BY TRULY AND BAKER,
6) AND DID ALL THIS IN 75-90 SECONDS.
The naysayers have yet to explain the following.
-Oswald (LHO) told Fritz he was “out front with Bill Shelley”.
-Why would Oswald lie when he had Shelley as an alibi?
-Fritz’s notes were not made public until 1997. Why not?
-Lovelady and Frazier both testified multiple times that Lovelady was standing on the steps in front of Frazier – not on the first floor where Doorman was standing.
-In their initial 11/22/63 testimony, Roy Truly and Marrion Baker did not say they encountered Oswald in the lunchroom on the second floor.
-TSBD witnesses said LHO always ate lunch in the Domino room on the first floor.
-LHO was seen on the first floor a few minutes before and after the 12:30 shooting.
-It’s a 10 second walk from the Domino room to the TSBD entrance.
-Witnesses were intimidated, ignored or testimony altered.
-Carolyn Arnold told the FBI that she saw Oswald on the first floor at 12:25 – but was never interviewed by the Warren Commission.
-Doorman’s V-neck open shirt was that of Oswald – not Lovelady.
-Pixel analysis of the shirt is scientific proof that Doorman was not Lovelady.
-Lovelady died at 41 in Jan. 1979 during the HSCA from complications due to a heart attack. He was never interviewed by the HSCA. The probability of a 41 year old white male dying from a heart attack in 1979 were approximately 1 in 10,000.
-Since Oswald was on the first floor, one must assume he would watch the motorcade.
-The process of witness elimination indicates that Oswald was “Prayer Man” with hands folded watching the motorcade on the first floor.
-The Altgens 6 photo printed in the 11/22 Oakland Times differs from the Groden version. The figure standing in front (who had to be Lovelady according to the testimony of Lovelady and Frazier) was whited out.
This is the “evidence” naysayers claim that proves Lovelady was Doorman.
1) “Doorman looks like Lovelady”.
But Doorman also “looks” like Oswald. And they disregard the obvious: Doorman is wearing Oswald’s shirt. http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2013/02/newseum-displays-oswalds-shirt-proof.html
2) No one testified that they saw Oswald out front.
But would they be allowed to give the testimony? Witnesses were ignored, intimidated and testimonies altered. Oswald was the designated patsy – come hell or high water.
3) There is no evidence that Altgens 6 was altered.
But note the differences between the early Oakland Tribune photo and later Groden version. A memo from FBI official Cartha DeLoach indicates that Altgens 6 could have been altered shortly after the assassination.The Zapruder film and the Oswald backyard photos were also once believed to be authentic.
Related Posts Indicating that Oswald was Doorman:
1 JFK: Oswald on the Top Level; Lovelady on the Steps 2 JFK: Judyth Baker’s analysis of the shirt proves Oswald is Doorman 3 JFK: To Believe Oswald was NOT standing in front of the TSBD you must believe 4 JFK: Oswald was “Out with Bill Shelley in Front” 5 JFK: Oswald in the Doorway – an Opinion Survey 6- Evidence Oswald was on the first floor minutes before the shooting
Discussion on the Education Forum started by Sean Murphy.
Was Marrion Baker the True Source of Inspector Sawyer’s Suspect Description?
Oswald on the first floor of the TSBD watching the motorcade:
Six witnesses saw Oswald on the first floor close to the time of the shooting: Junior Jarman, Harold Norman, Carolyn Arnold, Robert MacNeil, Pierce Allman, and Terry Ford. The last sighting was that of Carolyn Arnold at 12:25. But, her testimony was corrupted by the FBI (they tried to change it to 12:15), and in the end, the Warren Report did not mention Carolyn Arnold- at all. The Commision’s 26 volumes never mention her testimony, even though she did testify.
The following is from http://www.oswald-innocent.com/wrap.html
Cinque cites the work of David Wrone, who wrote “The Zapruder Film: Reframing JFK’s Assassination”
Chapter 11: The Man In The Doorway
by David Wrone, synopsis by Ralph Cinque
28 July 2012
The Altgens6 photo:
The Warren Commission failed to
1) obtain large close-up photos of Oswald and Lovelady to compare to Doorman.
2) ask everyone at the TSBD about Doorman’s identity? They only asked three people: Bill Shelley, Billy Lovelady, and Buell Frazier, all of whose testimony was “delayed, confused, and tainted” according to Dr. Wrone.
3) use Oswald’s shirt to prove identification.
Lovelady made various shirt claims. Billy said that he wore a “red and white striped sport shirt buttoned near the neck.” But Doorman’s shirt was unbuttoned. There are posted pictures of the striped shirt. It was short-sleeved.
In the footage of Lovelady milling around outside the TSBD after the assassination. Dr. Wrone reveals that the Martin film left Martin’s hands almost immediately and sold it to Life magazine. On December 17, the FBI “borrowed” it from Life magazine. Eventually, a local Dallas group was allowed to include part of the Martin film in a documentary of 18 films. It showed the 6 second clip of Lovelady milling around outside the TSBD after the assassination. Information from Dr. Wrone about the handling of the Martin film indicates that there was time and opportunity to corrupt the film. Note also that Billy
Lovelady’s own testimony of his actions after the assassination rule out any possibility that he was milling around out in front of the TSBD after the shooting, as he left for the railroad tracks immediately with Bill Shelley, and upon returning, they re-entered the building through the back door. Both Lovelady and Shelley said that. And, as we demonstrated on the Lovelady page, anatomically, Gorilla Man could not have been Lovelady.
Dr. Wrone: “Notably, neither the striped shirt nor the check shirt resembled the shirt on the Man in the Doorway.” The most you can say is that the shirt they used was closer to Doorman’s than the short-sleeved striped shirt that Lovelady actually wore. It was not the same shirt.
The shirt pattern was a better match to Oswald’s than to Lovelady’s Dr. Wrone said that Oswald’s shirt had a “grass leaf pattern, essentially brown, with gold flecks through it.” Lovelady’s shirt had “two-inch dark blue (almost black) and red squares or checks, separated by thin white lines.” The upper right side of Doorman’s shirt was a perfect match to Oswald’s.
Dr. Wrone pointed out that in comparing Doorman’s shirt to Lovelady’s, “the collars of the two shirts “furl” differently. “Finally, Oswald’s shirt is loose and baggy (like that of the Man in the Doorway), whereas Lovelady’s has a more tailored fit.”
“Such persuasive evidence supports Oswald’s location in the doorway of the TSBD viewing the motorcade at the moment the President was shot. Conceivably, Oswald, himself, tried to explain this and urged his captors to confirm his story by locating witnesses who would verify his location in the doorway and lunchroom, before and after. Just as likely, amid the chaos of his capture and incarceration, and in the face of official pressure to pin the assassin’s badge on him, such protests of provable innocence were brushed aside as the rush to judgment gained momentum.”
Detective Will Fritz wrote down that Oswald told him that he was “out with Bill Shelley in front.” He was referring to during the assassination and not after because Shelley wasn’t out there after. Oswald could not have encountered Shelley outside as he was leaving because Shelley wasn’t outside at that time. And there was no reason for Oswald to lie about that. He wasn’t committing a crime in leaving, and he did not need an alibi for it. Why would Fritz be more concerned about where Oswald was after the assassination than during?