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The Electoral vs. Popular vote Myth

03 Jan

Richard Charnin – Jan.3, 2021

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The conventional wisdom is that a presidential candidate could win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote – or vice versa. This is extremely unlikely in a fair election; there is virtually a 100% probability that the winner of the popular vote would win the electoral vote. But all elections are fraudulent to some extent.

The Democrats want to get rid of the electoral college and replace it with the winner of the popular vote, thinking this would help them win elections in the future. But this is based on the  premise that they can more easily win or steal the popular vote, like they  have done in the last two elections. Consider the 2000, 2004, 2016 and 2020 elections, all of which were fraudulent.

Bush stole the 2000 election. He won the Electoral vote by 271-267.  Gore won the recorded popular vote by 540,000 and the true vote by at least 5 million. He led the unadjusted exit polls in 11 states but lost them all in the vote. If he had won just one, he would have won the election.

Bush stole the 2004 election. He won the bogus recorded popular vote by 3 million and the electoral vote by 286-252.. But Kerry won the true popular vote and the unadjusted exit polls by at least 7 million. He  had approximately 349 electoral votes.

Clinton tried to steal the 2016 election. She won the bogus recorded vote by 3 million. But Trump won the electoral vote by 306-232 as well as the true popular vote.

Biden stole the 2020 election, the most fraudulent in history. He won the bogus recorded vote by 7 million and the electoral vote 306-232. But Trump won the true popular vote by 15-18 million with 356-393 electoral votes.

2020 Recorded Vote: Biden 51.3-46.9%, 306-232 EV; True Vote Model: Trump 55.1-42.7%, 393 EV https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yh0YkXBVctdJwt0_XHrpCC6f7K30oEz0Vr13MiU5qT4/edit#gid=297739797

2016 Recorded Vote: Clinton 48.3-46.2%, Trump 306-232 EV; True Vote Model: Trump 47.5-46.1%, 354-184 EV https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/2016-election-model-forecast/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sGxtIofohrj3POpwq-85Id2_fYKgvgoWbPZacZw0XlY/edit#gid=1739803045

2004 Recorded Vote: Bush 50.7- 48.3%, Bush 286-252 EV; True Vote Model: Kerry 53.6-45.1%, 364 EV; Unadjusted National Exit Poll: Kerry 51.7-47.0%; Unadjusted State Exit Polls: Kerry 51.1-47.6%, 349 EV https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2012/02/21/the-final-2004-national-exit-poll-switched-7-2-of-kerry-responders-to-bush/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdGN3WEZNTUFaR0tfOHVXTzA1VGRsdHc#gid=0

2000 Recorded Vote: Gore 48.4-Bush 47.9%, Bush 271- 267 EV; True Vote Model: Gore 51.5-44.7%, 404 EV; Unadjusted National Exit Poll: Gore 48.5-46.3%; Unadjusted State Exit Polls aggregate: Gore 50.8-44.4% https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/unadjusted-state-exit-polls-indicate-that-al-gore-won-a-mini-landslide-in-2000/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdFIzSTJtMTJZekNBWUdtbWp3bHlpWGc#gid=4

 
11 Comments

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11 responses to “The Electoral vs. Popular vote Myth

  1. eklavyaartist

    January 10, 2021 at 7:17 am

    On what basis do you claim that Bush stole the 2004 election? Isn’t it inconsistent, knowing that Clinton and Biden carried out massive electoral fraud, you claim that the Republicans stole the 2004 election? Why do you buy the Radical Left’s claims? Come out clear and recognize that the Liberals are the bad side, the ones rigging elections back from 1994 : https://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/19/us/vote-fraud-ruling-shifts-pennsylvania-senate.html.

     
    • Richard Charnin

      January 10, 2021 at 11:34 pm

      I don’t buy anyone’s claims. I do the analysis. No bias. Do you? I have written 4 books on Election Fraud. No one has done the analytical work that I have since 2000. I got the last 3 election electoral votes exactly right. No one else in the universe did that. I suggest you take a month and read my posts going back to 2000. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ib27G_vDNtQDNLDR8rXiU2LJLCn7Hspd4g5SKtQw1CM/edit#

       
      • eklavyaartist

        January 11, 2021 at 1:58 am

        Why do you trust the exit polls as a genuinely random sample? Isn’t it possible that the time of interviewing, response rates, chosen precincts biased the Exit Poll for Kerry? You know that this election was stolen from Trump. Yet the Edison Research’s unadjusted exit poll clearly showed Biden ahead of Trump by 6% or so. When you know that exit polls are rigged in 2020, why not in 2004?

         
      • Richard Charnin

        January 11, 2021 at 9:18 am

        I will not fall into the trap of continuing to respond to your comments. I already have. In detail. BUT YOU DON’T READ MY REPLIES OR UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. So I am done with you. I will not posts any more of your comments. I know your game.

         
      • Richard Charnin

        January 11, 2021 at 11:18 am

        The Dems became the establishment’s party in 2016 and cheated for Clinton and Biden. Prior to 2008 the Republicans were the establishment party. Now we have the UniParty. Repubs and Dems comprise the Deep State Globalism, NWO. They fear Trump’s populism. Only the people support him.

         
      • eklavyaartist

        January 11, 2021 at 2:54 am

        Sir, I have read your writing about the 2008 Presidential election. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that Nate Silver projected Obama to win the popular vote by 6.1%. RealClearPolitics’s poll average was 7.6%. Both numbers are quite close to the 7.3% recorded margin. The overwhelming 61% landslide indicated by NEP is untenable as the final opinion polls showed a 5-9% advantage for Obama.

         
      • Richard Charnin

        January 11, 2021 at 9:13 am

        Your first mistake is reading Nate Silver. The unadjusted 2008 national exit poll had Obama winning with 61% of the vote. You make the same mistake that people who have limited knowledge of polling makes. THE FINAL EXIT POLLS ARE ALWAYS FORCED TO MATCH THE RECORDED VOTE WHICH IS ALWAYS FRAUDULENT. Now, don’t quote RCP or Nate Silver to me. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2012/11/17/a-reply-to-nate-silvers-ten-reasons-why-you-should-ignore-exit-polls/ https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/11547/ http://richardcharnin.com/OpenLettertoNateSilver.htm http://richardcharnin.com/Silver2.htm http://richardcharnin.com/TwentySilver.htm http://richardcharnin.com/SilverRankings.htm Is that enough for you?

         
      • eklavyaartist

        January 11, 2021 at 4:16 am

        You argue that Republicans partially rigged the 2004, 2008 and 2012 presidential elections using Kerry’s victory and Obama’s landslides in absentee ballots. In 2020, it was established that Democrats carried out massive fraud in absentee votes. That invalidates your arguments about 2004, 2008 & 2012, right?

         
      • Richard Charnin

        January 11, 2021 at 9:04 am

        NO! I will repeat what I wrote in a previous reply to you. I never said Kerry and Obama won based on absentee ballots. You are putting words in my mouth. I The fraud was primarily due to uncounted ballots and vote flipping. I already gave you this link to the 2004 election. I will do it again. And do not send me any more comments until you read ALL of it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ib27G_vDNtQDNLDR8rXiU2LJLCn7Hspd4g5SKtQw1CM/edit#

         

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