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Proof that Oswald was Doorman: Testimony of Billy Lovelady and Buell Frazier

Richard Charnin
Dec.3, 2017

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Billy Lovelady and Buell Frazier both testified that Lovelady was standing on the STEPS at the Texas School Book Depository. But Doorman (Oswald) was standing on the TOP level.

THEREFORE LOVELADY COULD NOT BE DOORMAN! HE CANNOT STAND IN TWO PLACES AT THE SAME TIME!

Lovelady testified that he was standing on the STEPS. And Frazier said the same thing. If Lovelady was on the STEPS, then he could not be Doorman who was standing on the TOP Level. Q.E.D.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/lovelady.htm

WARREN COMMISSION
Mr. LOVELADY – That’s on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, “Well, I’ll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the STEPS, so I went out there”.
Mr. BALL – You ate your lunch on the STEPS? (Ball is perplexed)
Mr. LOVELADY – YES, SIR.
Mr. BALL – Who was with you?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley and Sarah Stanton, and right BEHIND ME me… (did Ball cut him off?)
Mr. BALL – What was that last name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Stanton.
Mr. BALL – What is the first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley.
Mr. BALL – And Stanton’s first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Miss Sarah Stanton.
Mr. BALL – Did you stay on the STEPS? (was Ball trying to get Lovelady to say he was on the TOP level?)
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes. (BNL said he stayed on the STEPS)
Mr. BALL – Were you there when the President’s motorcade went by?
Mr. LOVELADY – Right. (Once again, Lovelady does not change his location – he stayed on the STEPS).

WARREN COMMISSION
Frazier testified that Lovelady was standing two or three STEPS BELOW him. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm

Mr. BALL – We have got a picture taken the day of the parade and it shows the President’s car going by. Now, take a look at that picture. Can you see your picture any place there?
Mr. FRAZIER – No, sir; I don’t, because I was back up in this more or less black area here.
Mr. BALL – I see.
Mr. FRAZIER – Because Billy, like I say, is TWO or THREE STEPS down in FRONT of me. (why would he say this if it were not true?)
Mr. BALL – Do you recognize this fellow?
Mr. FRAZIER – That is Billy, that is Billy Lovelady.
Mr. BALL – Billy? (Ball must be concerned with Frazier’s answer. He does not want him to say Lovelady is on the STEPS, so he uses guile to twist the testimony).
Mr. FRAZIER – Right
Mr. BALL – Let’s take a marker and make an arrow down that way. That mark is Billy Lovelady?
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – That is where you told us you were standing a moment ago.
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – In FRONT of you to the right over to the wall?
Mr. FRAZIER – Yes. (Frazier once again says that Lovelady was standing BELOW him on the STEPS, but then UNWITTINGLY CONTRADICTS himself by pointing to Doorman who was on the TOP Level).
Mr. BALL – Is this a Commission exhibit?
We will make this a Commission Exhibit No. 369.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 369 for identification.)

FRAZIER AT THE CLAY SHAW/GARRISON TRIAL 2/13/69:
http://www.jfk-online.com/fraziershaw.html
MR. ALCOCK: Can you see the spot where you were situated when the presidential motorcade came by?
FRAZIER: Yes,sir, I can.
MR. ALCOCK: Will you take this symbol and place it at that location where you were standing?
MR. ALCOCK: Mr.Frazier, do you recall who you were with during the presidential motorcade?
FRAZIER: Yes, sir, I can. When I was standing there at the TOP of the stairs, I was standing there by a heavyset lady who worked up in our office, her name is Sara, I forget her last name, but she was standing right there BESIDE me when we watched the motorcade.
MR. ALCOCK: Do you recall anyone else who may have been with you?
FRAZIER: Right down in FRONT of me at the BOTTOM OF THE STEPS my foreman Bill Shelley and BILLY LOVELADY were standing there.

1986 OSWALD MOCK TRIAL
GERRY SPENCE: “You recall that 23 years later that BNL was standing in FRONT of you. About 4 STEPS in FRONT of you. Is that correct?”
FRAZIER: Yes it is..
https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/10851/

Scientific Evidence Confirms the Testimony
Judyth Baker: Pixel Analysis
https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/jfk-judyth-baker-pixel-analysis-of-altgens6-photo-proves-oswald-is-doorman/

Larry Rivera: Photogrammetric and Overlay analysis
https://oswaldinthedoorway.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-following-paper-was-written-and.html

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JFK: Proving the Warren Commission was a Hoax and Oswald was framed

Richard Charnin
Aug. 15, 2016

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It takes just ONE of the following to prove that the Warren Commission was a Hoax and Oswald was framed….

  1. One witness killed to prevent him or her from talking.
  2. One witness killed to keep others from talking.
  3. One bullet more than the three the WC claimed were fired.
  4. One brain of JFK to be missing.
  5. One eyewitness who definitely heard shots from the Grassy Knoll.
  6. One eyewitness who definitely saw a shooter at the Grassy Knoll.
  7. One person to order that Dallas police stand-down.
  8. One person with fake Secret Service credentials at the Grassy Knoll.
  9. One journalist to lie about JFK’s head movement.
  10. One government agency to withhold evidence from investigators.
  11. One person with the power to control the investigation.
  12. One photo of Oswald in front of the TSBD at 12:30 to be tampered with.
  13. One Zapruder frame to be switched or deleted to hide the limo full stop.
  14. One conspirator on his death bed (EH Hunt) to claim Johnson was responsible for the “Big Event”.
  15. One Parkland doctor describing entrance wounds in the neck and 5.5 inches below the collar in the back.
  16. One of 44 Parkland and autopsy witnesses describing a massive exit wound in the back of the skull.
  17. One fingerprint of LBJ hit man Mac Wallace on the TSBD 6th fl.
  18. One cop (Roger Craig) to identify a 7.65 Mauser on the 6th fl.
  19. One cop (Baker) seeing Oswald on the 2nd floor with a coke just 90 seconds after the shots were fired.
  20. One Oswald note to the Dallas FBI (Hosty) destroyed because it may have revealed a plot to kill JFK.
  21. One set of Dr. Humes original autopsy notes description of JFK’s wounds.
  22. One autopsy photo tampered with to hide JFK’s exit wound.
  23. One meeting on Nov. 21 in Dallas attended by Hoover, Johnson, Hunt, Murchison, Nixon, etc.
  24. One photo of Poppy Bush standing in front of the TSBD.
  25. One photo of Gen. Landsdale walking near the three tramps.
  26. One witness (Carolyn Arnold) claiming Oswald was on the first floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm.
  27. One WC member (Ford) to admit he raised the location of JFK’s back wound 5.5 inches.
  28. One HSCA chairman (Sprague) fired for wanting to subpoena the CIA.
  29. One HSCA chairman (Blakey) to admit a CIA cover up years later.
  30. One WC lawyer (Specter) forced to create the physically impossible Single Bullet Theory.
  31. One paraffin test to show that Oswald did not fire a rifle on Nov. 22.
  32. One mob-connected friend (Ruby) of the Dallas police to silence Oswald.
  33. One Dallas police chief (Fritz) to fail to record Oswald’s interrogation.
  34. One Sheriff (Craig) to hear that Tippit was shot at 1:06pm on the radio.
  35. One tampered photo of Oswald’s face superimposed on another body.
  36. One Johnson mistress to claim LBJ said JFK would be taken care of.
  37. One retired Police chief to say: “We don’t have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody’s yet been able to put him in that building with a gun in his hand”.
  38. One eyewitness (Sylvia Odio) to testify that she and her sister identified  Oswald as one of three men who came to her Dallas home on Sept. 25 .
  39. One JFK limo with a bullet entry hole in the windshield.
  40. One Oswald girl friend (Judyth Baker) hired by leading cancer expert Dr. Alton Ochsner to document working with Oswald (“Me and Lee”) and David Ferrie (“David Ferrie”) in  New Orleans  on a secret project to kill Castro.

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JFK: Warren Commission Apologists Comment on the Evidence

JFK: Warren Commission Apologists Comment on the Evidence

Richard Charnin
Oct.6, 2014
Updated: Oct.16,2014

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LN: Lone Nutter (Warren Commission apologist)

1. The Badgeman photo was declared authentic by MIT and other photo analysts.
LN: MIT and all the others were wrong. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Badgeman_coloured.jpg

2. Witness testimony that Tippet was killed no later than 1:06 proves that Oswald could not have been the shooter.
LN: All the witnesses at the scene were mistaken. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/08/19/jfk-did-oswald-shoot-tippit-eyewitnesses-no-warren-commission-yes/

3. All Parkland doctors and witnesses said they observed a small throat entrance wound and a massive head exit wound. This proves there were at least two shots from the front and destroys the Single Bullet Theory.
LN: The Parkland doctors were mistaken. They never saw the head wound. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8804/backofheadorangesizedwo.jpg

4. Jack Ruby said it was a conspiracy and LBJ was involved.
LN: Ruby was lying. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zd4r4O0o_Y

5. Parkland Dr. Charles Crenshaw viewed a neck entrance wound and head exit wound.
LN: Crenshaw was mistaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXZ87gOlKkM

6. The Altgens6 photo was altered to eliminate Oswald in the doorway.
LN: There was no alteration. Lovelady is Doorman. http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/GrodenAnnot-one-half14.jpg

7. The JFK autopsy photos of the head exit wound were covered.
LN: The following top view was altered to show an exit head wound; the back view is unaltered and does not show an exit wound. http://www.celebritymorgue.com/jfk/jfk-autopsy.html

8. The figure in the Altgens6 photo sitting in front whose face is cut out is Billy Lovelady. The cutout is not an arm. No one holds their arms VERTICALLY OVER the eyes to shade them; if they did, they would not be able to see. We hold our arm(s) HORIZONTALLY ABOVE our eyes to shade them from the sun.
LN: That is not a cutout of Lovelady. It was just a photo processing glitch. http://betshort.com/loveos.gif

9. An FBI official attending the autopsy claimed there was no bullet exit from the back wound.
LN: The FBI official was either lying or mistaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMzhKy-O4T4

10. Wesley Frazier testified five different times that Lovelady was standing in front of him on the STEPS of the TSBD. If so, Lovelady could not have been Doorman who was standing on the TOP level (first floor).
LN: Frazier was mistaken in all five statements. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/10851/

11. A pixelation analysis of Doorman’s shirt by Judyth Baker proves LHO was Doorman.
LN: The analysis is bogus, junk science. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2eD2Wl3xSmRHTuE02ntfYkb3ES2Kuo8wl3HHzzAlD8/pub

12. Doorman’s shirt in Altgens6 matched that of Oswald in custody.
LN: it is not the same shirt Oswald was wearing in custody. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-FeA_djwkRgNMUeGWcRuJNyXfghtQcvkzVC9bpY3JI8jlhZMn

13. Doug Horne (ARRB) and Dino Brugioni (world class photo interpreter) proved that the Zapruder film was altered and the chain of custody was broken. The film does not show the JFK Limo stop seen by 33 witnesses.
LN: Horne and Brugioni are mistaken. The Limo never stopped. The 33 witnesses were all mistaken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGr21FZBVL4

14. The Oswald backyard photos were faked; the face is pasted from the same cutout in each of the four photos.
LN: the fact that there is no change in expression or position is not proof of fakery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSmOS3BGFVo

15. Gerald Ford of the Warren Commission moved the back wound (which never exited) up 5” to make it conform to the Magic Bullet exiting the neck.
LN: Ford wanted to fix the error in the evidence and did nothing wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDNZBfPkbPk

16. The Single Bullet Theory was a contrived farce because the Warren Commission needed to have two bullets cause seven wounds in JFK and Connally.
LN: Arlen Spector would not just make it up. Gerald Ford moved the back wound up a few inches to indicate the true location of the entrance wound at the base of the neck described by Spector. FBI officials Sibert and O’Neill both lied when they claimed there was no exit from the back wound. http://bullet.my3gb.com/images/4-kennedy-magic-bullet.jpg

17. At least 78 of 1400+ JFK-related witnesses listed in Who’s Who in the JFK Assassination died unnaturally from 1964-78. Only 17 were expected statistically. The probability is E-62 (one in a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion).
LN: The witnesses were not directly related. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/jfk-witness-deaths-graphical-proof-of-a-conspiracy/

18. At least 40 of 656 JFK-related witnesses listed in Simkin’s JFK Index died unnaturally from 1964-78. Only 8 were expected statistically. The probability is E-37 (one in a trillion trillion trillion).
LN: The only reason the witnesses were included by Simkin is because they died. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/jfk-related-unnatural-and-suspicious-deaths-in-the-jfk-calc-spreadsheet-and-simkins-jfk-index/

19. At least 51 of 122 suspicious deaths in the JFK Calc spreadsheet/database were located in the Dallas area. The obvious connection is the JFK assassination.
LN: The witnesses were self-selected. It was just a coincidence. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdDFSU3NVd29xWWNyekd2X1ZJYllKTnc#gid=55

20. 33 of 59 witnesses said the JFK limo came to a FULL stop. The probability they would all be mistaken is ZERO. This proves that the Zapruder film was altered since it does not show a full stop.
LN: Witness testimony is unreliable. The calculation is invalid. The Zapruder film was not altered. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/02/04/jfk-assassination-mathematical-proof-that-the-zapruder-film-was-altered/

 
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JFK Explosive Testimony: Roger Craig, Will Fritz and Oswald

JFK Explosive Testimony: Roger Craig, Will Fritz and Oswald

Richard Charnin
July 1, 2014

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Let’s review what these authors had to say: Jim Garrison, Jim Marrs and Jim Douglass

Jim Garrison: “On the Trail of the Assassins”, pg. 110
Garrison met with Craig a few months after his testimony which doomed Craig’s career as a law enforcement officer. He relates Craig’s story about meeting with Capt. Will Fritz in his office where Oswald freely admitted that it was Ruth Paine’s station wagon and did not deny getting into it. Sheriff Buddy Walthers went out to the Paine residence and confirmed that she did have a Nash Rambler station wagon. It is on the record. Neither Fritz nor any other member of the Dallas Homicide division followed up the lead. Fritz later denied that Craig had been in his office at police headquarters or told him about the Rambler. However, a news photo that turned up six years later in Dallas police Chief’s Curry’s autobiography clearly showed Craig was there.

Jim Marrs: “Crossfire”, pg. 318.
Craig said that as he approached the TSBD and asked for someone involved in the investigation, a man in a grey suit told him “I’m with the Secret Service”. Craig testified that the SS agent took no interest or notes of the persons leaving the scene, but he became extremely interested as soon as Craig mentioned the Rambler. It was the only part of Craig’s statement that he took down in the pad he was holding. Regarding Craig and Oswald in Fritz’s office: This was explosive testimony since Oswald had officially made his way home by bus and taxi. Therefore, the Warren Commission stated it could not accept important elements of Craig’s testimony. It went even further, stating that the meeting between Craig and Oswald never occurred. Marrs also mentions that the proof he was there was based on the photo in Curry’s book.

James Douglass: “JFK and the Unspeakable”, pg. 274
After Oswald mentioned Ruth Paine’s station wagon, he said ”Now everyone will know who I am”. At this point Fritz ushered Craig out of his office. It was too late – for the government and for Craig who had seen and heard too much. What Roger Craig would testify to in the years ahead would be corroborated by a parade of other witnesses: Ed Hoffman, Carolyn Walther, James Worrell, Richard Carr, Helen Forrest, James Pennington, Marvin Robinson and Roy Cooper. The Rambler was the getaway car.

Since the Warren Commission decided by that time that Oswald must have escaped in a cab and bus, the WC also disregarded Craig’s account of the dialogue with Oswald in Fritz’s office – because Fritz denied Craig was even there. Craig would also be attacked on the basis of an FBI report that seemed to show Paine did not own a Nash Rambler but rather a 1955 Chevrolet station wagon. Judged in terms of its source, the report proved nothing. The FBI agent who wrote it would later confess to a congressional committee that he was guilty of deliberately destroying key assassination evidence in obedience to his FBI superior’s orders.

By rejecting Roger Craig’s testimony, the Warren Commission could ignore the significance of Oswald’s words to his interrogator, Will Fritz. According to Roger Craig, it was Oswald who said that the car that picked him up was a station wagon owned by Mrs. Paine, who Oswald then defended.

Notes:
Fritz also failed to reveal his notes which surfaced 30 years later. Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front” at the time of the shooting. Of course, the WC never mentioned the notes.

Craig claimed there were at least 14 instances where his testimony was twisted by Attorney David Belin who interviewed Craig in private. One would think that a witness as critical as Craig would be interviewed in front of the Warren Commission.

In choosing to dismiss Craig’s testimony,the WC relied on the tortured testimony of
– Cab driver Whaley, whose manifest showed he picked up Oswald at 12:30. He failed to identify him in the lineup and his description of Oswald’s clothing was full of contradictory statements.
– Bus driver McWatters could not identify Oswald.
– Bus passenger Mary Bledsoe, who McWatters did not recall seeing on the bus. Her testimony was disjointed and unintelligible. She was Oswald’s former landlady – a perfect witness.

Finally, who is more credible: Roger Craig or…. David Belin, Will Fritz, Ruth Paine, Whaley, McWatters, Bledsoe?

Who had the motive to twist and intimidate testimony, Roger Craig or the Warren Commission? Craig’s motive was to tell the truth as he saw it. The Warren Commission made sure that evidence of a conspiracy was suppressed at all costs and that Oswald was the lone assassin.

Consider the pathetic cab and bus ride testimony and WC motivation to avoid a conspiracy at all costs. We know that someone got into the station wagon based on solid confirmation of Craig’s testimony by at least six witnesses. If the cab/bus ride was a bogus contrivance, then Oswald had to get home some other way. By simple logic, one must assume that he got back in the station wagon – if you believe Craig and the six witnesses. Oswald looked like himself.

Roger Craig stuck to his story to the bitter end.

Testimony of Roger Craig
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/craig.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/craig1.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/craigsh.htm

Testimony of Will Fritz
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/fritz1.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/fritz3.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/fritz2.htm

Testimony of William Whaley
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/whaley1.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/whaley2.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/whaley3.htm

Testimony of Cecil McWatters http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/mcwatters.htm

Testimony of Mary Bledsoe
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/bledsoe.htm http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/bledsoe1.htm

 
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JFK Assassination: Fritz notes Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”

JFK Assassination: Fritz notes Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”

Richard Charnin
April 5, 2014
Updated: March 27, 2015

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That’s what Lee Harvey Oswald told Captain Will Fritz, whose abbreviated notes were hidden until they were released in 1997 by ARRB: http://www.jfklancer.com/Fritzdocs.html

QUESTION 1: Assume Oswald was photographed in Altgens6. Then of course he could not have shot JFK. Would you expect that Will Fritz’s notes that Oswald was “out with Bill Shelley in front” would be hidden for 30 years? Yes or No?

QUESTION 2: In his WC testimony, Lovelady was asked to place a DARK arrow in the DARK area pointing to himself. The arrow appears to be pointing to Doorman on the TOP level. Frazier had placed an arrow pointing to Doorman in the light area. Do you agree that Lovelady and Frazier contradicted themselves since they both stated multiple times that Lovelady was standing in FRONT on the STEPS – not on the TOP level. Yes or No?

QUESTION 3: If a photo, video, document, testimony, etc. had to be altered or fabricated to convict Oswald, do you suppose it would have been? Yes or No?

QUESTION 4: If a witness could confirm that Oswald was standing out front, would he/she be allowed to so testify? Yes or No?

QUESTION 5: If a witness could confirm that Oswald was standing out front and was allowed to testify, would he/she be asked the question? Yes or No?

QUESTION 6: If a witness was a participant in the conspiracy to make LHO the patsy and was asked if LHO was out front, would he/she say he was? Yes or No?

QUESTION 7: Neither Lovelady, Shelley or others were asked directly if Oswald was out front. Would it have been a logical question to ask. Yes or No?

QUESTION 8:  Oswald told Will Fritz that he was OUT FRONT WITH BILL SHELLEY at 12:30.   Oswald was seen at 12:31 in the 2nd floor lunchroom by officer Baker and Roy Truly holding a coke. But he could not run from the 6th to the 2nd floor in 75-90 seconds, bought a coke and not show shortness of breath.   It takes 10 seconds to walk from the first floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom. Oswald must have told the truth to Fritz, since a) he already had an alibi, Bill Shelley, who was not asked by the WC if LHO was out front and b) he was seen by Truly and Baker at 12:31. Yes or No?

QUESTION 9: Lovelady died at age 41 in Jan. 1979 (during the HSCA investigation) from “complications” due to a heart attack. The probability of a 41 year old white male dying from a heart attack in 1979 was approximately 1 in 10,000. One must assume that as a critical witness Lovelady would have been sought to testify at the HSCA. Yes or No?

QUESTION 10: Many JFK researchers believe that Oswald was framed yet insist that he is not in the Altgens 6 photo. They say Doorman “looks like” Lovelady. But Doorman also “looks like” Oswald.  Is that a sufficient response in light of the fact that Doorman’s open shirt style is different from Lovelady’s? Yes or No?

QUESTION 11: Is it just a coincidence that the TSBD witnesses are not clearly shown in Altgens 6? Yes or No?

QUESTION 12 Do you believe the Oswald backyard photos were fakes? Yes or No.

QUESTION 13:  Do you believe the Z-film was altered? Yes or No?

QUESTION 14: Is there at least a possibility that Oswald is Doorman? Yes or No?

QUESTION 15: Do you believe Carolyn Arnold, a secretary at the TSBD, was mistaken in her statement that Oswald was on the first (i.e. ground) floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm? Yes or No?

http://22november1963.org.uk/carolyn-arnold-witness-oswald

QUESTION 16: Do you consider it odd that Arnold was not interviewed by the Warren Commission? Yes or No?

QUESTION 17: In the video at the 2 minute mark, a man looking like a balding Billy Lovelady appears at the lower right of the screen. He is facing the TSBD and is wearing a checkered shirt buttoned to the collar. No tee shirt is visible. It was NOT the shirt that Doorman was wearing. Do you agree that it appears to be Lovelady? Yes or No? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNHtUDEDAI

QUESTION 18: In the Altgens6 photo, Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve shirt open to reveal his tee shirt. The  2/29/64 FBI photo of Lovelady shows him wearing a short-sleeve striped shirt. The FBI claimed Lovelady was wearing a short-sleeve shirt on 11/22/63, Does the fact that Doorman is wearing a long sleeve shirt seem odd to you? Yes or No.

QUESTION 19: Naysayers claim that Lovelady is Doorman because not one TSBD employee identified Oswald. But they could not say they saw Oswald in front since it had already been determined that he was the sole deranged, communist, Lone Nut assassin. Do you agree that is a plausible reason they would have been inhibited from testifying that Oswald was in front?  Yes or No.

QUESTION 20: Lovelady and Frazier both testified multiple times (see below)  that Lovelady was standing in front of Frazier on the steps. Frazier was on the TOP level (the first floor). Since Doorman was also standing on the TOP level,  Lovelady could not be Doorman. Yes or No?

CONCLUSION: Simple logic proves that Lee Harvey Oswald was Doorman standing in front of the TSBD in the Altgens6 photo taken at 12:30, the moment JFK was shot.  IT’S TIME TO CLOSE THE BOOK ON THE UNENDING PARLOR GAME. OSWALD SAID HE WAS “OUT WITH BILL SHELLEY IN FRONT “. THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS LYING. 

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WARREN COMMISSION TESTIMONY

William Shelley

Testified at the Warren Commission that he was standing on the TOP landing of the entrance to the TSBD. Billy Lovelady testified that he SAT on the steps in FRONT of Shelley. Doorman was standing on the TOP level (1st floor) in Altgens6.
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Mr. SHELLEY – Oh, several people were out there waiting to watch the motorcade and I went out to join them.
Mr. BALL – And who was out there?
Mr. SHELLEY – Well, there was Lloyd Viles of McGraw-Hill, Sarah Stanton, she’s with Texas School Book, and Wesley Frazier and Billy Lovelady joined us shortly afterwards.
Mr. BALL – You were standing where?
Mr. SHELLEY – Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. BALL – That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. SHELLEY – yes.

Mr. BALL – Did you see the motorcade pass?

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Billy Lovelady
Confirmed that he was on the steps, not on the Top Level where Doorman was standing.
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/lovelady.htm

Mr. LOVELADY – That’s on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, “Well, I’ll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the steps,” so I went out there.
Mr. BALL – You ate your lunch on the steps?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL – Who was with you?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley and Sarah Stanton, and right behind me

Mr. BALL – What was that last name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Stanton.
Mr. BALL – What is the first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley.
Mr. BALL – And Stanton’s first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Miss Sarah Stanton.
Mr. BALL – Did you stay on the steps?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – Were you there when the President’s motorcade went by?
Mr. LOVELADY – Right

Wesley Frazier
confirmed Lovelady was on the steps in 5 interviews from 1963-86
1. 11/22/63 to the DPD
2. 3/1/64 at the WC
3. 2/13/69 at the Garrison/Shaw trial
4. 1978 at HSCA
5. 1986 at the Oswald Mock Trial

1. 11/22 Dallas PD (handwritten statement and affidavit)
Lovelady was standing on the front steps.

2. 3/1/64 Warren Commission
Frazier testified that Lovelady was standing two or three steps below him. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm

Mr. BALL – We have got a picture taken the day of the parade and it shows the President’s car going by. Now, take a look at that picture. Can you see your picture any place there?
Mr. FRAZIER – No, sir; I don’t, because I was back up in this more or less black area here.
Mr. BALL – I see.
Mr. FRAZIER – Because Billy, like I say, is TWO or THREE STEPS down in FRONT of me. (why would he say this if it were not true?)
Mr. BALL – Do you recognize this fellow?
Mr. FRAZIER – That is Billy, that is Billy Lovelady.
Mr. BALL – Billy? (Ball must be concerned with Frazier’s answer. He does not want him to say Lovelady is on the STEPS, so he uses guile to twist the testimony).
Mr. FRAZIER – Right
Mr. BALL – Let’s take a marker and make an arrow down that way. That mark is Billy Lovelady?
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – That is where you told us you were standing a moment ago.
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – In FRONT of you to the right over to the wall?
Mr. FRAZIER – Yes. (Frazier once again says that Lovelady was standing BELOW him on the STEPS, but then UNWITTINGLY CONTRADICTS himself by pointing to Doorman who was on the TOP Level).
Mr. BALL – Is this a Commission exhibit?
We will make this a Commission Exhibit No. 369.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 369 for identification.)

3. 2/13/69 Shaw/Garrison trial http://www.jfk-online.com/fraziershaw.html

MR. ALCOCK:
Q: Can you see the spot where you were situated when the presidential motorcade came by?
A:Yes,sir, I can.
Q: Will you take this symbol and place it at that location where you were standing?
Q: Mr.Frazier, do you recall who you were with during the presidential motorcade?
A: Yes, sir, I can. When I was standing there at the TOP of the stairs, I was standing there by a heavyset lady who worked up in our office, her name is Sara, I forget her last name, but she was standing right there BESIDE me when we watched the motorcade.
Q: Do you recall anyone else who may have been with you?
A: Right down in FRONT of me at the bottom of the steps my foreman Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were standing there.

4. 1978 HSCA interview by Moriarity and Day
Standing right on the STEPS

5. 1986 Oswald Mock trial
Gerry Spence: “You recall that 23 years later that BNL was standing in FRONT of you.About 4 steps in FRONT of you. Is that correct?”
Frazier: Yes it is..

This GIF conforms with Frazier’s and Lovelady’s testimony of where they were standing at 12:30. It shows that Altgens6 was ALTERED to MORPH Oswald’s face to Lovelady while Lovelady’s was BLOCKED out standing on the steps in front. It is reminiscent of the fake Oswald backyard photos where hos face was superimposed over another body. Oswald said he could prove it – but never got the chance. Now it all fits: http://betshort.com/loveos.gif

Lovelady’s Shirt: Plaid (11/22/63) vs Striped (2/29/64)
According to researcher Josiah Thompson, Lovelady told CBS News that the striped, short sleeved shirt he wore in this 2/29/64 FBI photo was NOT the shirt he was wearing on 11/22/63. He said he wore a PLAID, box-patterned shirt. The shirt matched the one seen in the Roger Craig interview at the 2 minute mark. https://conspiracycritic7.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/wpid-wpid-2013-07-22-21-36-33-picsay.jpeg

In 1971, Lovelady and his wife wrote this memo for Robert Groden, claiming he wore a plaid shirt on 11/22/63: https://conspiracycritic7.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/wpid843-wpid-6989002969_5633154508_z.jpeg

Oswald in the Doorway deniers also claim that there was not enough time to alter Altgens6. That is a canard.There was a window of opportunity.
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2013/09/jfk-cartha-deloach-fbi-memorandum-and.html

The figures to the left of Oswald have been blotted out. Why? http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/GrodenAnnot-one-half14.jpg

Latest update: Judyth Baker, author of “Me and Lee”, has done a pixel analysis of Oswald’s shirt vs. Lovelady’s which proves Oswald is Doorman. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2eD2Wl3xSmRHTuE02ntfYkb3ES2Kuo8wl3HHzzAlD8/pub


More evidence: Oswald’s shirt is proof that he was Doorman
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2013/02/newseum-displays-oswalds-shirt-proof.html

Did Officer Baker and Roy Truly encounter Oswald on the 2nd floor? http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-lunchroom-encounter-that-never-was.html

Does this photo from the Darnell film show Oswald  (Prayerman) at the TSBD ?

Of 17 TSBD employees interviewed by the Warren Commission, 9 said the shots came from the Grassy Knoll (GK), 5 TSBD (TB), 1 Knoll and TSBD, 1 other, 1 not asked

TSBD employee, source of shots, WC Link
Adams, Victoria GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/adams_v.htm
Arce, Danny GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/arce.htm
Baker, Mrs. Donald GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/baker.htm
Burns, Doris GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/burns.htm
Dougherty, Jack TB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/doughert.htm

Frazier, Buell Wesley GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm
Givens, Charles not asked http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/givens1.htm
Hine, Geneva TB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/hine.htm
Jarman, James Other http://jfkassassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/jarman.htm
Lovelady, Billy GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/lovelady.htm

Molina, Joe GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/molina.htm
Norman, Harold TB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/norman.htm
Piper, Eddie TB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/piper2.htmSanders,
Reid, Mrs. Robert TB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/reid.htm
Sanders, Pauline GKTB http://jfkassassination.net/russ/exhibits/ce1434.htm

Shelley, William GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/shelley1.htm
Truly, Roy GK http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/truly1.htm

 
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JFK Dealey Plaza Witnesses: A Survey Comparison

JFK Dealey Plaza Witnesses: A Survey Comparison

Richard Charnin
Feb. 26, 2014
Updated: Feb. 28, 2014

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An analysis of four surveys of witnesses at Dealey Plaza yielded surprising results. Of witnesses who said shots were fired from either the Grassy Knoll (GK) or the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD), three surveys (Feldman, Galanor, Adjusted) indicated that 61%, 52% and 67% said shots came from the GK. But Warren Commission apologist John McAdams’ indicated just 35%.

This is an analysis of John McAdams Strange List: https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/02/26/jfk-dealey-plaza-witnesses-john-mcadams-strange-list/

The following witness data has been added to the JFKCalc spreadsheet:

Dealy Plaza witnesses: Surveys of Source of Shots: Misinformation from the HSCA and John McAdams. In this article, Galanor discusses the McAdams and HSCA surveys: http://jfklancer.com/pdf/galanor.pdf

Harold Feldman (1965): 121 eyewitnesses: 51 said Grassy Knoll, 32 TSBD, 38 had no opinion. http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/12th_Issue/51_wits.html

Stewart Galanor (1988) 216 eyewitnesses: 52 GK, 48 TB, 5 GK and TB;TB, 4 elsewhere, 37 no opinion. http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/witness/Index.htm

John McAdams: 241 eyewitnesses: 61 TSBD, 35 GK, 2 GK and TB, 2 elsewhere, 69 no opinion.  http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/earwitnesses.htm

Charnin (adjusted): 223 eyewitnesses: 84 GK, 39 TSBD; 6 GK and TB; 4 elsewhere, 38 no opinion. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjAk1JUWDMyRdDFSU3NVd29xWWNyekd2X1ZJYllKTnc#gid=65

HSCA (1977): 178 witnesses based on FBI reports and the Warren Commission: 49 said shots were from the TSBD and only 21 from the Knoll. The HSCA failed to reveal who the witnesses were!

Stewart Galanor wrote: How the Warren Commission and the House Select Committee on Assassinations manipulated evidence to dismiss witness accounts of the assassination. http://www.history-matters.com/analysis/witness/artScience.htm

“Over six hundred people witnessed the assassination of President Kennedy. The FBI acting on behalf of the Warren Commission interviewed at least two hundred of them. Regrettably, the Commission seemed unconcerned that the FBI reports on seventy of these interviews did not reveal if the witness had an opinion on the source of the shots. Nor did the Commission conduct an analysis of witness accounts or give any credence to those accounts of witnesses who thought the shots came from the grassy knoll.

In 1978 the House Select Committee on Assassinations analyzed the accounts of the witnesses taken by the Warren Commission and from FBI reports published in the 26 Volumes of Hearings and Exhibits that accompanied the Warren Report. In analyzing witness accounts, a diligent investigator would consider various issues that the House Committee failed to address. According to the HSCA, 692 witnesses “were present in the Plaza during the assassination.” Most of them were never called to testify by either the Warren Commission or the HSCA. (8HSCA139)

 
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JFK Assassination: Was Lee Harvey Oswald standing in front of the Texas Book Depository at 12:30?

JFK Assassination: Was Oswald standing in front of the Texas Book Depository at 12:30?

Richard Charnin
Feb. 13, 2014
Updated: Dec.29, 2014

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From the JFK Lancer site: Previously it had been told there were no notes taken from the Oswald interrogations the weekend of President Kennedy’s assassination, but first FBI Agent Hosty found his notes (included in his book) and now the Fritz notes are found. Released by the ARRB 11-20-97. According to Dallas Captain Will Fritz’s notes, Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”. http://www.jfklancer.com/Fritzdocs.html

Latest update: Judyth Baker, author of “Me and Lee”, has done a pixel analysis of Oswald’s shirt vs. Lovelady’s which proves Oswald is Doorman. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X2eD2Wl3xSmRHTuE02ntfYkb3ES2Kuo8wl3HHzzAlD8/pub

Smoking Gun?
In Altgens 6, Lovelady appears to be standing on the steps in front. His face was cut out – except for the top right corner. Oswald was standing on the TOP level (1st floor) by the doorway.

David Von Pein writes:
There were TWO arrows placed on the photo at the Warren Commission. The first arrow was placed by Buell Frazier pointing to Doorman standing at the extreme left. Frazier claimed it was Billy Lovelady.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20007 http://oi50.tinypic.com/2lxgvi9.jpg

CE369 was first marked with an arrow by Buell Wesley Frazier on March 11, 1964, at 2 H 242: http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh2/html/WC_Vol2_0125b.htm

And that same exhibit was then marked with another arrow by Billy Lovelady himself on April 7, 1964 (at 6 H 338): http://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/html/WC_Vol6_0174b.htm

Now, from the testimony, it’s a bit unclear as to which witness (Frazier or Lovelady) drew in the dark arrow that is easily visible in CE369. But that visible arrow might very well have been drawn by Frazier and not Lovelady. But I’m not entirely sure of that.

But Joseph Ball’s instructions to Lovelady might give a clue. Ball told Lovelady:
“Take a pen or pencil and mark an arrow where you are. …. Draw an arrow down to that; do it in the dark. You got an arrow in the dark and one in the white pointing toward you.”

So, via the above testimony, it’s possible that Lovelady’s arrow is “in the dark” and cannot be easily seen.

I suppose this confusion about who drew the dark arrow pointing to Doorway Man in CE369 will spark some additional controversy concerning the true identity of the man in the TSBD doorway, with some conspiracy theorists possibly wanting to now claim that Billy Lovelady didn’t really mark CE369 at all with an arrow in 1964.

But it’s quite clear to me from the Warren Commission records that BOTH Wesley Frazier AND Billy Lovelady drew separate arrows pointing to the SAME PERSON (Doorway Man) in Commission Exhibit No. 369.

And, of course, as I’ve pointed out in previous posts, there’s also Wes Frazier’s testimony at the 1986 mock trial in London, where Frazier identified Doorway Man as Lovelady.”
… End of Von Pein’s post….

David Von Pein is wrong. Frazier did not identify Lovelady as Doorman. Frazier testified that Lovelady was standing three or four steps BELOW him. Doorman was standing on the TOP level (the first floor), where Frazier was standing. And it is clear that Frazier contradicted himself when he placed the arrow in the white area pointing to Lovelady as Doorman. But he testified FIVE times that Lovelady was standing on the steps in FRONT of him.

1986 Oswald Mock trial:
Gerry Spence: “You recall that 23 years later that BNL was standing in front of you. About 4 steps in front of you. Is that correct?”
Frazier: Yes it is.

Let’s look at Lovelady’s Warren Commission testimony.He clearly states that he was in front, standing on the steps. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/lovelady.htm

Mr. LOVELADY – That’s on the second floor; so, I started going to the domino room where I generally went in to set down and eat and nobody was there and I happened to look on the outside and Mr. Shelley was standing outside with Miss Sarah Stanton, I believe her name is, and I said, “Well, I’ll go out there and talk with them, sit down and eat my lunch out there, set on the steps,” so I went out there.
Mr. BALL – You ate your lunch on the steps?
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL – Who was with you?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley and Sarah Stanton, and right behind me….
Mr. BALL – What was that last name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Stanton.
Mr. BALL – What is the first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Bill Shelley.
Mr. BALL – And Stanton’s first name?
Mr. LOVELADY – Miss Sarah Stanton.
Mr. BALL – Did you stay on the steps
Mr. LOVELADY – Yes.
Mr. BALL – Were you there when the President’s motorcade went by
Mr. LOVELADY – Right.


Wesley Frazier confirmed Lovelady was on the steps in 5 interviews from 1963-86. If Lovelady was in front on the steps, he could not be Doorman standing on the top level. Frazier indirectly proved that Oswald was Doorman.
11/22/63 to the DPD
3/1/64 at the WC
2/13/69 at the Garrison/Shaw trial
1978 at HSCA
1986 at the Oswald Mock trial

11/22 Dallas PD (handwritten statement and affidavit)
Standing on the front steps.

3/1/64 Warren Commission
Frazier testified that Lovelady was standing two or three steps below him. http://jfkassassination.net/russ/testimony/frazierb1.htm

Mr. BALL – We have got a picture taken the day of the parade and it shows the President’s car going by.
Now, take a look at that picture. Can you see your picture any place there?
Mr. FRAZIER – No, sir; I don’t, because I was back up in this more or less black area here.
Mr. BALL – I see.

Mr. FRAZIER – Because Billy, like I say, is two or three steps down in front of me.

Mr. BALL – Do you recognize this fellow?
Mr. FRAZIER – That is Billy, that is Billy Lovelady.

Mr. BALL – Billy?
Mr. FRAZIER – Right
Mr. BALL – Let’s take a marker and make an arrow down that way. That mark is Billy Lovelady?
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – That is where you told us you were standing a moment ago.
Mr. FRAZIER – Right.
Mr. BALL – In front of you to the right over to the wall?
Mr. FRAZIER – Yes.
Mr. BALL – Is this a Commission exhibit?
We will make this a Commission Exhibit No. 369.
(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 369 for identification.)

2/13/69 Clay Shaw/Garrison trial http://www.jfk-online.com/fraziershaw.html

MR. ALCOCK:
Q: Can you see the spot where you were situated when the presidential motorcade came by?
A:Yes,sir,I can.
Q: Will you take this symbol and place it at that location where you were standing?
Q: Mr.Frazier, do you recall who you were with during the presidential motorcade?
A: Yes, sir, I can. When I was standing there at the top of the stairs, I was standing there by a heavyset lady who worked up in our office, her name is Sara, I forget her last name, but she was standing right there beside me when we watched the motorcade.
Q: Do you recall anyone else who may have been with you?
A: Right down in front of me at the bottom of the steps my foreman Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were standing there.

1978 HSCA interview by Moriarity and Day
Standing right on the steps

1986 Oswald Mock trial
Gerry Spence: “You recall that 23 years later that BNL was standing in front of you. About 4 steps in front of you. Is that correct?”
Frazier: Yes it is.

Billy Lovelady died in Jan. 1979 at the age of 41 by complications from a heart attack. The House Select Committee (HSCA) was in session. Billy did not testify.
The probability of a 41 year old white male dying from a heart attack in 1979 was 1 in 10,000.

Did Officer Baker and Roy Truly encounter Oswald on the 2nd floor? Not according to their initial testimony. http://jfkthelonegunmanmyth.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-lunchroom-encounter-that-never-was.html

http://theamericanchronicle.blogspot.com/2013/09/where-was-oswald-at-1230-pm-on-november.html

 
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