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Proof that Oswald was standing in front of the Texas Schoolbook Depository when JFK was shot

Proof that Oswald was standing in front of the Texas Schoolbook Depository when JFK was shot

Richard Charnin
Sept. 27, 2017

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The evidence is overwhelming. Oswald never fired a shot.

The experts agree: Oswald was photographed standing at the doorway of the TSBD in the Altgens6 photo taken at the time of the shooting:

Carolyn Arnold was an eyewitness who was never interviewed by the Warren Commission. Here’s why:

Warren Commission, Garrison/Shaw trial and HSCA testimony from Lovelady and Frazier proves that Oswald was standing on the top floor entrance to the TSBD

Why is the evidence dismissed?

Timeline of events at Dealey Plaza

TSBD workers said Oswald always had his lunch in the first floor Domino room.  Further evidence that Oswald was on the first floor minutes before the shooting

Prove to yourself that Oswald was in the Doorway. Take this survey.

Judyth Baker’s pixel analysis of the shirt proves Doorman is not Lovelady.

Larry Rivera – computer graphics analysis of facial features proves Oswald was Doorman

If you believe Oswald was NOT standing in front of the TSBD, then you must believe all of the following…

Check out Detective Fritz’s notes of his interview of Oswald/ They were not released until 1997. Oswald claimed that he was “out with Bill Shelley in front” at the time of thee shooting.

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Posted by on September 27, 2017 in JFK


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Oswald in the Doorway positively identified in Altgens6 photo using computer graphics techniques

The man in the doorway identified
By Larry Rivera © 10/22/15

The man in the doorway in the Altgens6 photograph can now be positively identified using modern computer graphics techniques. The techniques used here can be completely and reliably reproduced using the materials and methods described herein.

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Posted by on October 24, 2015 in JFK


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JFK Myths Exposed: Oswald as Doorman was “put to bed in 1978 and makes CTs look foolish”; Lovelady was Doorman because “it looks like him”

JFK Myths Exposed: Oswald as Doorman was “put to bed in 1978 and makes CTs look foolish”; Lovelady was Doorman because “it looks like him”

Richard Charnin
Oct.14, 2015

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Regarding Oswald in the Doorway, a poster wrote: “This was put to bed in 1978 and is irrelevant except to make conspiracy people look foolish”.

Another poster commented: Lovelady was Doorman because “it looks like him”. I asked him to prove it but he kept repeating “it looks like him”. I showed him links to my posts which provide powerful evidence that Oswald was Doorman. It was like debating a wall, but it is instructive to see how disinformationists and trolls operate. Show them proof and they just ignore it – and keep repeating their nonsensical one-liners. View the thread here:

This was my reply to the first poster.
It was also decided by the HSCA in 1978 that the Mafia did it, and that the CIA and FBI were not involved, and that Oswald was a shooter in the TSBD, and that it was just a coincidence that the other shooter was independent of Oswald, and there was no definable witness universe and therefore it was impossible to calculate witness death probabilities, and that the London Times actuary was wrong and that…

the Oswald backyard photos were not fakes, and Oswald shot Tippit and shot at Walker, and that Oswald was a lone nut, not a CIA asset or FBI informer, and that Hoover, LBJ and the Warren Commission were honest in their search for the truth, and that the Zapruder film was not altered, and the magic bullet theory was credible, and that Clay Shaw was not CIA, and that just 4 bullets were fired based on acoustics and that…

THE MAJORITY OF DEALEY PLAZA WITNESSES  STATED THAT THE SHOTS CAME FROM THE TSBD, and that the CIA  did not have to respond to a subpoena from HSCA investigator Richard Sprague, and that’s why they hired Blakey who would not investigate the CIA and who stated that the mob did it, and that there was no coverup, and that the photos of JFK head wounds were not altered and that…THE WC SINGLE BULLET THEORY MADE SENSE…and that OSWALD WAS NOT IN THE DOORWAY…



According to the poster’s logic, anyone who does not believe the above must be a CT and looks foolish. Such twisted logic from one who is not a Lone Nutter.  Lone Nutters believe the impossible SBT and that Oswald was on the 6th floor shooting JFK and cannot be Doorman, and that he outdid Superman by hiding the rifle and  ran down four flights to the lunchroom in a little over a minute,  and that he was not seen by Victoria Adams (the girl on the stairs).

Strangely, posters who are not Lone Nutters also believe that Oswald was confronted by Roy Truly and Officer Baker drinking a coke on the 2nd floor – and he was not out of breath. But Baker and Truly did not mention seeing Oswald in their original testimony in which they reported seeing someone on the third or fourth floor who did not resemble Oswald. That was easy.

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Philip Stahl: Exposing JFK Media Propagandists and Warren Commission apologists

Richard Charnin
Sept. 14, 2015

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Philip Stahl: Exposing JFK Media Propagandists and Warren Commission apologists

Stahl is a prolific Astronomer, Physicist and JFK researcher who has written many Physics texts and The JFK Assassination: Final Analysis. The following posts on his blog illustrate the extent to which the media will go in covering up the truth about the JFK assassination.

I sent Stahl this link: Debunking Scott Aaronson’s “Twenty Reasons to Believe Oswald Acted Alone”

Stahl responded with this set of devastating articles which closed the book on Aaronson:

JFK Forum Lone Nutters
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John McAdams

Rachel Maddow (MSNBC): In this video Maddow lies about Lee Oswald and the Mannlicher Carcano.

The Beltway Crowd: Bob Woodward vs. Oliver Stone

Gerald Posner and Vince Bugliosi:

Vince Bugliosi

Bill O’Reilly

Bob Schieffer: CBS

Time Magazine

Stanley Kutner, Bill Maher, Tom Brokaw


Stephen King

Jill Abramson: NY Times

Philip Shenon: NY Times

Steve Kornacki: MSNBC

Michael Smerconish

Larry Sabato: Univ. of Virginia

Glenn Garvin: Miami Herald

Marilyn Elias: Southern Poverty Law Center

The “Skeptics Society”

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JFK: Warren Commission apologists claim that…

Richard Charnin
September 11, 2015

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Warren Commission apologists claim that…

1. Oswald shot Tippit.
But Tippit was shot no later than 1:06 pm. Oswald was seen outside his rooming house a mile away at 1:04 (some claim he was at the Texas Theater). The WC had to add 10 minutes to the time of death (1:16) to fabricate the myth that Oswald had enough time to get to the scene.

2.The Magic Bullet theory is correct.
But the bullet entered 5.5” below JFK’s collar and never exited. Gerald R. Ford, a member of the Warren Commission, suggested that the panel raise its initial description of the bullet wound in Kennedy’s back in a transparent, illegal scam to bolster the ridiculous SBT.

3. The three tramps were not Harrelson, Holt and Rogers.
But they were identified by Lois Gibson , who works for the Houston Police Department and is probably the most respected forensic artist and facial expert in the world. She has just been awarded with a notation in the Guinness Book of World Records for the highest crime solving rate based on composite sketches.

4.Cancer and heart attacks cannot be induced.
But Judyth Vary Baker and Mary S. Sherman, under the direction of cancer expert Alton Ochsner, developed a cancer-producing agent to kill Castro. . The 1975 Church Senate Intelligence Committee heard testimony of methods to induce heart attacks and cancer.

5.The witness unnatural death probability calculation does not take margin of error into account.
But this was not a poll of witnesses. It is a statistical analysis based on historical data.

6. The Weigman photo proves that Lovelady was standing at the Doorway.
But it does not show Lovelady at 12:30. The Altgens 6 photo was taken at the precise second that JFK was shot. It shows Lovelady standing on the steps.

7. Oswald was the Lone Gunman on the 6th floor.
But according to Det. Will Fritz, no one could place him there. And he was seen on the second floor at 12:25 by Carolyn Arnold – who was not called to testify at the WC.

8. No one testified that they saw Oswald in front on the steps of the Texas School Book Depository.
But the Warren Commission and the FBI had their patsy and would never allow such testimony. To claim they would is laughable disinformation.

9. Lovelady was Doorman. Oswald was not in front of the TSBD.
But Lovelady and Frazier both testified that Lovelady was standing on the steps in front of Frazier. Doorman was on the first floor. So Lovelady could not have been Doorman.

10. The HSCA determined that the London Times actuary’s 1 in 100,000 trillion probability that 18 material witnesses would die (13 unnaturally) within three years of the assassination was invalid. The HSCA claimed the witness universe was “unknowable”.
But the HSCA did not consider a) unnatural deaths, b) 552 Warren Commission witnesses, of whom at least 30 died suspiciously, c) 7 FBI officials were due to testify at HSCA and died suspiciously within a 6 month period, d) and at least 100 others.

11. The HSCA noted just 21 suspicious deaths.
But not one of them was Mafia (8), CIA (16), FBI (9), Dallas police (12) or anti-Castro Cuban (5). There were at least 122 suspicious deaths between 1964 and 1979.

12. There is no proof that the suspicious witnesses were JFK-related.
But approximately 67 of the 122 in the JFK Calc spreadsheet were called to testify at the WC (1964), Garrison/Shaw trial (1967-69), Church Senate Intelligence Committee (1975-76) and HSCA (1976-79).

13. There was no connection between the witnesses.
But at least 50 were from the Dallas area. It cannot just be a coincidence. If there was no connection, the deaths would have been distributed randomly throughout the United States.

14. Warren Commission apologist John McAdams said that John Simkin’s JFK Index includes a number of individuals who were inserted in the index because they died.
That is laughable but not unexpected considering the source. Seventy (70) of the 656 died suspiciously, 44 unnaturally (including 22 homicides). The probability: 1 in trillions.

15. Fingerprint expert Nathan Darby was proven wrong after claiming that fingerprints taken from the 6th floor of the TSBD were those of hitman Mac Wallace.
But “Wallace’s police ‘ten-print’ from his 1951 arrest, used in Mr. Darby’s comparison, was taken 12 years before the murder of JFK and even Mr Darby himself observed differences in the two prints that had arisen during the intervening time (e.g., he recorded what appeared to be an injury to the skin that was not present in the 1951 print but disrupted the 1963 print). He still felt confident enough to swear an affidavit stating that he had found 14 matching points, the threshold for admissibility in Texan courts. By all accounts, he later revisited the prints out of personal interest and found a 32-point match”.

16. Oswald’s palm prints were found on the Carcano
But Dallas police officials said during public interviews that Oswald’s prints had NOT been found on the weapon. When the FBI’s Latona examined the Carcano on November 23, he did not find Oswald’s prints on the weapon. Moreover, Latona said the rifle’s barrel did NOT look as though it had even been processed for prints. There is evidence that suggests the palm print was obtained from Oswald’s dead body at the morgue, or later at the funeral home So suspicious was the palm print that even the WC privately had doubts about the manner in which it was obtained (Garrison 113; Marrs 445; cf. Lane 153-158)

17. Oswald purchased the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle by mail-order under the alias “Alek Hidell”.
But this video proves that Oswald never ordered the rifle.

Why would he order a sub-par rifle from Klein’s Sporting Goods in Chicago using an alias when he could have purchased a superior rifle anonymously anywhere in Texas?
– Oswald was at work when he is said to have purchased the money order. So who bought the money order? If Oswald didn’t buy it, why does the handwriting seem to be his? There are forgers who can copy a person’s handwriting so well that it is difficult if not impossible to detect the fakery. The original order form and envelope were destroyed, so the FBI had to rely on microfilm copies of this evidence.

– Nobody at Oswald’s post office reported giving him a hefty package such as the kind in which a rifle would be shipped. None of the postal workers reported ever giving Oswald ANY kind of a package. Oddly, the FBI apparently made no effort to establish that Oswald picked up the rifle from the post office, or that he had ever received a package of any kind there.

– Postal regulations required that only those persons named on the post office box registration form could receive items of mail from the box, yet there is no evidence that Oswald listed the name of Hidell on the form (Smith 290-291). In a report dated 3 June 1964, the FBI stated, “Our investigation has revealed that Oswald did NOT indicate on his application that others, including an ‘A. Hidell,’ would receive mail through the box in question”.

– There is a discrepancy in size between the weapon ordered by “A. Hidell” and the rifle that Oswald allegedly left behind on the sixth floor of the TSBD. “A. Hidell” ordered item C20-T750 from an advertisement placed by Klein’s Sporting Goods in the February 1963 issue of AMERICAN RIFLEMAN. The rifle that was listed as item C20-T750 is 36 inches long. The Mannlicher-Carcano that Oswald supposedly abandoned on the sixth floor of the Book Depository Building is 40.2 inches long.

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JFK: Timeline of events from 12:00-1:22pm

Richard Charnin
May 29, 2015

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The following is a summary timeline of events surrounding the JFK assassination compiled by Richard Hocking:

12:00: Eddie Piper sees Oswald on the 1st floor of the TSBD.
12:00–12:10: (estimated) Bonnie Ray Williams goes to 6th floor to eat lunch (sees and hears no one).

12:12: Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald a few minutes before 12:15 in the hallway on the first floor between the front and double doors 

12:15–12:25: Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in the 1st floor Lunch Room (Domino Room)

12:15: Arnold Rowland sees a man with a rifle on the 6th floor West Window (slender, dark hair, light shirt open at neck); another man was “colored” hanging out of East corner window)

12:15– 12:20: BRW takes elevator from 6th to 5th floor leaving Dr.Pepper bottle and partially eaten chicken behind (?) (sees and hears no one)

12:18: Howard Brennan sees man on 6th floor (no rifle visible at this time). (w/m, early30’s, slender, 165-75, light clothing)

12:20-12:25: Carolyn Arnold looks through glass door and sees Oswald inside on 1st floor near front of TSBD

12:26-12:30: Ruby Henderson sees two men on 6th/ or Top floor. One dark (Mexican or Negro), and was wearing a white shirt. The other man was taller and lighter.

12:28: Richard Carr sees a heavy set man with glasses, tan sport coat in 2nd window from East corner, 6th floor.

12:29: Carolyn Walther sees two men with a rifle in 5th floor SE corner Window (one wearing brown suit coat).

12:29 Robert Edwards sees a white male in 6th floor SE corner window, light colored shirt, short sleeve, open neck, possibly thin.

12:29 Ronald Fischer sees man in 5th floor “right corner” window laying down. He could only see his head, light headed and open neck shirt, in his twenties (Fischer will later say it was the 6th floor and change the number of shots from 4 to 3).

12:29–12:30: Geneva Hines notes that the lights are out on her phone system as motorcade approaches TSBD.

12:30: Amos Euins sees Blackman with rifle in 6th floor SE corner window (later changed to white man). The man firing the rifle also has white shirt and bald spot on top of head.

12:30: Howard Brennan sees white man w white shirt and Rifle in 6th floor SE corner window,

12:30: Jack Dougherty is 10 feet west of West Elevator on 5th floor (within sight and sound of NW stairs); hears one shot.

12:30: Dillard Photo taken 3-15 seconds after shots shows Norman and Williams in SE 5th floor corner windows (and possibly Jarman in the 4th window from the SE corner). They say they run to West Window after shots.

12:30 According to Det. Will Fritz, Oswald said he was on the first floor at the time of the shooting and then went up to the second floor to get a coke.

12:30 “Prayer Man” is standing on TOP of the front stairs of the TSBD by the glass door. Frazier says he was also standing there and that William Shelley and Lovelady were on the STEPS below him.

12:31: Vicky Adams and Sandra Styles descend the NW rear stairs from the 4th floor to the 1st floor but do not see or hear anyone.

12:31: Otis Williams runs up NW stairway to 4th floor (sees no one) goes back to his 2nd floor office (?)

12:31: Officer Baker enters the TSBD front entrance, runs past “Prayer Man” and goes to back with Truly, who shouts twice to release elevator (no response). They see two white men by the elevators (probably Shelley and Lovelady according to Adams) 

12:31: Officer Barnett runs to guard back of TSBD (and Fire Escape on East Side).

12:31:30: Officer Baker and Roy Truly on 2nd floor by NW stairway; claim to see Oswald in lunch room.

12:32: HSCA analysis shows boxes in 6th floor window were rearranged within 2 minutes of shooting.

12:32–12:33 Mrs. Reid returns to her 2nd floor office. Oswald calmly walks by her with coke in hand. 27

12:32–12:33: Officer Baker sees white male on 3rd or 4th floor, 30 yrs old, 5’9, 165 lb, dark hair, light brown jacket. Manager vouches for the man and Baker lets him go. (Baker 11/22/63 affidavit)

12:33–12:34: Baker and Truly on 4th or 5th floor, spot East Elevator, but West elevator is missing, They take the East Elevator to the seventh floor and find nothing, return to the fourth floor where Baker reports to Inspector Sawyer, the senior Dallas Police Department officer in the building.

12:35: Baker and Truly are on the roof of TSBD

12:40–12:45: Deputy Sheriff Roger Craig hears a shrill whistle and sees a light green Nash Rambler Station Wagon stop by the TSBD. He then sees a white male run down the slope and get inside. He was 140-150 lbs, brown hair, in his 20’s, white T shirt. The driver of the vehicle was a husky Latin, dark wavy hair, tan windbreaker jacket. Craig runs over to report this to the Command Post in front of the TSBD entrance and encounters a SS Agent (“40 years old, sandy-haired with a distinct cleft in his chin. He was well-dressed in a gray business suit”).

12:45: Description of suspect broadcast by DPD: w/m, 30, 5’10, 165, 30-30 (Winchester Rifle on Channel 2).

1:22: Boone and Weitzman discover rifle they identify as a 7.65 Mauser, concealed between boxes on the 6th floor.

1:22 Truly tells DPD Capt. Lumpkin that one of his men (Oswald) is missing. Lumpkin confers privately with two or three other senior DPD officers and then escorts Truly up to the Sixth Floor where they interrupt Capt. Fritz examining the rifle. Lumpkin tells Fritz that Truly has something important to tell. Truly tells Fritz about the missing employee and gives Fritz Oswald’s address at Mrs. Paine’s home in Irving. Fritz walks across the street to Sheriff Decker’s office and they confer privately. Fritz returns to his DPD office where Oswald is under arrest for the Tippit shooting.

Did Baker and Truly encounter Oswald on the 2nd floor?

Related Posts Indicating that Oswald was Doorman

JFK: Oswald on the Top Level; Lovelady on the Steps 2 JFK: Judyth Baker’s analysis of the shirt proves Oswald is Doorman 3 JFK: To Believe Oswald was NOT standing in front of the TSBD you must believe  4 JFK: Oswald was “Out with Bill Shelley in Front” 5  JFK: Oswald in the Doorway – an Opinion Survey 6- Evidence Oswald was on the first floor minutes before the shooting


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JFK: Evidence Oswald was on the 1st floor minutes before the shooting

JFK: Evidence Oswald was on the 1st floor minutes before the shooting

Richard Charnin
May 24, 2015

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This post is largely based on Gil Jesus’ excellent analysis.

Oswald’s whereabouts between 11:45am and 12:25pm is documented by 5 different witnesses who claimed to have seen him on the first floor. According to Dallas Homicide Captain Will Fritz, Oswald told him that he was on the first floor in the “Domino Room” at the time of the assassination having his lunch. Fritz testified: “I asked him what part of the building at the time the President was shot. He said he was having lunch at about this time on the first floor.” But it was not until 1997 that Fritz’s notes of his interview of Oswald were released in which Oswald said that he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”.

 JFK’s motorcade was scheduled to be at Dealey Plaza at 12:25pm but was 5 minutes late. Oswald was seen on the first floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm by Carolyn Arnold  as she was exiting the building. Arnold was not interviewed by the Warren Commission. 

The “Domino Room” was a recreation room on the first floor where the employees would take their breaks. The lunchroom was on the second floor, but many of the warehouse employees used the first floor “Domino Room” to eat lunch and play dominoes. TSBD witness testimony was unanimous: Oswald ALWAYS ate his lunch in the Domino room-which was on the same floor as the entrance to the TSBD.

At least five witnesses claimed they saw Oswald on the first floor.

1. Charles Givens told the FBI that he saw Oswald reading a newspaper in the Domino room at 11:50 am. Givens testified that when he saw Oswald reading, it was usually “right at lunch time” – and Oswald always ate lunch in the Domino Room.

2. William Shelley gave testimony supporting Oswald being in the first floor Domino Room at 11:50.

3. Janitor Eddie Piper also saw Oswald on the first floor at about noon.

These sightings of Oswald on the first floor between 11:45 and 12:00 give credibility to Givens’ original account of seeing Oswald reading the newspaper in the Domino Room at 11:50 am. They also imply that Givens, under tremendous pressure, changed his story to not seeing Oswald at all that day.

4. Carolyn Arnold told the FBI that after she left the TSBD, she caught a glimpse of someone she thought was Oswald on the first floor. FBI notes indicated that she claimed to have seen Oswald “a few minutes before 12:15. But in her original statement she indicated that she left the building at 12:25, a fact that she repeated in a March 1964 affidavit.

If Arnold left the building at 12:25 pm to watch the parade and saw Lee Harvey Oswald on the first floor “standing between the front door and the double doors leading to the warehouse”, he could not have been the killer of President Kennedy. It also means that the FBI lied in its report on the time that she claimed to have seen him. They needed Oswald in the sixth floor window at 12:25, so they changed the time to a few minutes before 12:15, rather than a few minutes after 12:25, in order to give Oswald time to get to the 6th floor.  Arnold was never called as a witness by the Warren Commission.

5. Occhus Campbell, Vice-President of the TSBD, informed the NY Herald Tribune on 11/23/63 that shortly following the assassination, Oswald was seen on the ground (first) floor near the storage room.

The sightings of Oswald on the first floor by these witnesses BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER Arnold Rowland saw a man on the sixth floor with a rifle, make it IMPOSSIBLE for Oswald to have been that man.

The Lunchroom Encounter: fact or fiction?

Roy Truly told Will Fritz on the day of the assassination that he saw Oswald near the storage room on the first floor as he went inside with officer Marrion Baker.

Baker made no mention in his 11/22/63 affidavit of encountering a man in the 2nd floor lunchroom as he made his way up the stairs. Why didn’t the WC question Baker about the affidavit in which he stated that he saw a man who did not match Oswald’s appearance on the third or fourth floor walking away from the stairwell? Roy Truly said the man worked at the TSBD. There was no mention of encountering anyone in the 2nd floor lunchroom.

During questioning by FBI agent James W. Bookhout, Oswald claimed that he saw two “Negro employees” in the Domino Room. One he recognized as “Junior”; the other was a shorter man whose name he did not recall. The “Junior” he referred to was James “Junior” Jarman; the other man was Harold Norman.

In his WC testimony, Jarman admitted being in the Domino Room at the time Oswald said he was, but denied seeing Oswald. He said that after descending from the sixth floor he went to the first floor to wash up. He then picked up his lunch in the Domino Room and went upstairs to the second floor to buy a soda from the machine. He returned to the “Domino Room” where he ate a part of his sandwich while standing, then walked around on the first floor eating his sandwich and drinking his soda.

Harold Norman also ate his lunch in the Domino Room. Although he admitted that there was someone else there with him, he “could not remember who ate in the domino room with me”. Norman’s lack of memory of who had lunch with him on the day the President of the United States was assassinated is strange. He remembered that after eating his lunch, he stood on the sidewalk with Danny Arce. He recalled seeing Roy Truly and TSBD Vice President O.V. Campbell and Billy Lovelady outside as well. He said that he returned to the building with James Jarman. He remembered coming out of the building after the shooting and seeing Howard Brennan. He remembered being interviewed by an FBI agent named Kreutzer on November 26th.

Harold Norman could remember all of these details, but not who he had lunch with in the “Domino Room”. Could the other person in the Domino Room have been someone other than Oswald? The FBI never investigated or determined who that person was.

If Oswald had been on the sixth floor prior to 12:15, as the Commission believed, it was a remarkable coincidence that out of all of the employees of the TSBD, Oswald was able to pick out two who were together as he claimed, on the same floor as he claimed, in the same room as he claimed and at the same time as he claimed.

These co-workers of Oswald all testified that Oswald ate his lunch in the first floor Domino Room. Givens went so far to say that Oswald always ate lunch there. Williams and Jarman gave testimony that proved that Oswald’s leaving the building after lunch was not out of the ordinary.

The Altgens6 photo

JFK:  Oswald in the Doorway - An Opinion Survey

“The first step to creating the false impression that Lee Harvey Oswald was on the 6th floor of the School Book Depository was to distort the photograph. Clearly, it is not possible to remove a face or faces from the area of the doorway of the TSBD unless the Altgens photo was deliberately defaced.  

Three witnesses confirm the fact that Lovelady was with them on the steps of the Depository, William Shelley (6H328), Sarah Stanton (22H647), and Wesley Frazier (22H675). But in the WCH, Shelley testified under oath that Lovelady was SITTING DOWN on the top step directly in front of Shelley, and that is why the man pictured in the Doorway is not Lovelady, and J. Edgar Hoover knew it. Even Lovelady claimed that he was with Shelley, and the man in the Doorway appears to be alone and he is wearing Lee Harvey Oswald’s shirt.

Lovelady did not appear to be asked about the shirt he was wearing on the day of the assassination by the Warren Commission. According to Michael Benson, Lovelady said he was wearing a red and white stripped shirt. However, the House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) claimed he was wearing a plaid shirt. Unfortunately, Lovelady was not able to confirm this as he died just before the publication of the HSCA report. He died of a heart-attack aged 42 in January, 1979. And that’s pretty solid evidence that somebody did not want to publish the obvious truth”.

The Doors of Perception, by William Kelly, is a comprehensive analysis of the Truly and Baker movements.

Shawn Murphy: Was Marrion Baker the True Source of Inspector Sawyer’s Suspect Description? Prayer Man’s location, at the top of the steps, suggests that he is unlikely to have been a passer–by. He is more likely to have been someone who worked inside the TSBD building, as were the fourteen witnesses known to have been standing in the doorway during the assassination. All of the TSBD white, male, manual workers, except for Oswald, were accounted for. A process of elimination   indicates that Prayer Man may have been Oswald.

Related Posts: 1 JFK: Oswald on the Top Level; Lovelady on the Steps 2 JFK: Judyth Baker’s analysis of the shirt proves Oswald is Doorman 3 JFK: To Believe Oswald was NOT standing in front of the TSBD you must believe  4 JFK: Oswald was “Out with Bill Shelley in Front” 5  JFK: Oswald in the Doorway – an Opinion Survey


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Judyth Baker: Lee Harvey Oswald did not shoot at General Walker

Richard Charnin
May 19, 2015

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Judyth Baker’s typically thorough analysis is a must-read:
“Did Lee Harvey Oswald shoot at General Edwin Walker months before the Kennedy assassination? As in virtually every Warren Commission conclusion regarding Oswald, it is unsupported by the evidence”.


A Shot In The Dark
On April 10, 1963, a shot was fired through the window of Walker’s residence in Dallas, Texas. The bullet narrowly missed him. He stated:
“I was sitting behind my desk. It was right at 9 o’clock, and most of the lights were on in the house and the shades were up. I was sitting down behind a desk facing out from a corner, with my head over a pencil and paper working on my income tax when I heard a blast and a crack right over my head…The bullet went through the screen frame. Then it went through a portion of the window frame and a portion of the glass”.

Robert Alan Surrey, a friend of Walker’s, told police that on Monday April 8th, when he was at the house he saw two men peeking in the windows. Surrey wrote the “JFK: Wanted for Treason” pamphlet and was an aid to Gen. Walker.]

Walter “Kirk” Coleman, a neighbor, added he heard the gunshot, looked out his window and saw two men depart the church parking lot next to Walker’s house in two separate automobiles. A police report was filed but no one was ever arrested.

Read more at Suite101: Beating the Bushes: Hunting Ted Walker 1963 |

The Warren Commission wrote: Commission Finding.–“In their investigation of the attack on General Walker, the Dallas police uncovered no suspects and planned no arrests. The FBI had no knowledge that Oswald was responsible for the attack until Marina Oswald revealed the information on December 3, 1963.”

But according to Researcher Shanet Clark:
“Edwin Walker’s event was a put-on to help frame up the patsy. If one of the unmarked Mannlichers could fire into the house, the guy would be a lone nut gunman after the fact. Siewell’s car was there at some point, and that had to be excised, and people saw other people, not Oswald, that night, etc. It looks more like a set up than an actual murder attempt.” Ref:

Another researcher, Jim Root, wrote:
“Walker is totally unaware of who Oswald is until after the assassination when he recognizes his picture on television as one of hundreds of people that Walker has passed information to at airports, train stations and parks during his work in military intelligence. Believing that he may, in fact, be set up as a fall guy for the assassination because of his association with Oswald or because he knows (because of contact with Oswald) that Oswald is an agent of some sort, Walker is in fear for his own life. Walker recognizes that his work within the “right wing” will make him a suspect in the assassination conspiracy investigation. In panic he makes contact with a German newspaper that prints, based on an interview with General Walker, a story about Oswald shooting at Walker.

The German newspaper’s assassination attempt story is another thing that must, by necessity, now be folded into the assassination story that is being fabricated by the Warren Commission. It is, in this scenario, the single most important story that cannot be believed and must be lost to history! Otherwise someone might look into Walker’s military record and might discover that his connections bring the assassination to close to to many important people.”

Walker was questioned by Mr. Liebeler of the Warren Commission on July 23, 1964. He was asked about a phone call he received at the Captain Shreve Hotel in Shreveport, Louisiana on November 23, 1963 at about 7:00 a.m.

Mr. Liebeler: “Did you talk to him on a transatlantic telephone call in which you told him about the alleged fact that Lee Harvey Oswald was the person who made an attempt on your life?”
Gen. Walker: “I don’t recall that name. Did he speak English? I don’t speak German.”

Walker’s Warren Commission testimony is interesting to say the least, perhaps misleading for a purpose. The Warren Commission was established the same day this article appeared in Germany. The information in the article mirrors the Warren Report conclusions dealing with the Walker shooting.

The FBI did not suspect the connection between the Walker shooting and the Kennedy assassination until “the weekend of November 30, 1963.” (CE 2524) The FBI interviewed Marina Oswald about her husband’s involvement in the attempt to assassinate General Walker on December 2, 1963. (CE 2545)

Is it possible that Walker, after seeing Oswald’s picture on the television news, recognized him? How would Walker, an outspoken critic of Kennedy, react to the assassination if he did in fact recognize Oswald?

Walker did another interview with a Canadian paper in the days after Oswald was shot and no mention of the attempt on his life or the connection between the two was made. According to researcher Jim Root:
“Two new tidbits of information that I have heard, seen or read in the past 72 hours while visiting the 6th Floor Museum.

1. The bullet recovered from Walker’s home was called “steel” jacketed in the Walker incident police report. The bullets used in the Kennedy assassination were Copper.

2. The angle from which the bullet seems to have entered Walker’s home does not appear to have been a straight shot: Window, past Walker, into wall directly across from the window. Instead you have window, Walker, then into a wall that is adjacent to the exterior wall where the window was. This means the angle from which the shot was taken was much more difficult that what I had previously thought.

I had the opportunity to see some newsreel movies of the site taken the night of and the next day as the Walker incident happened (April 10 and 11, 1963). And yes Walker did show his wounds to the cameras the day after the incident occurred”.

Researcher Don Jeffries put the subject temporarily to bed with this comment:
“As has been pointed out before over the years, JFK and Walker were political enemies and thus it is very unlikely that the same assassin would try to kill them both. It astonishes me that any JFK assassination researcher places the least bit of credibility in the ridiculous testimony of Marina Oswald. Didn’t she claim that Lee had thrown the rifle in some bushes, to avoid being seen walking back home with it? Okay….he must have had to retrieve the rifle at some point, so wasn’t he worried about carrying it in public then? Why didn’t he just disassemble it and do his famous curtain rods bit? But then again, we must accept that the Mannlicher-Carcano did indeed belong to Oswald in order to begin to believe this story. I don’t think it has been proven at all that the rifle did belong to Oswald, and I certainly don’t place any credence in the fanciful and forced testimony of his understandably frightened wife.”

Marina Oswald has now told us that she was threatened with deportation. What would have happened to her American-born baby? Here we see her being interrogated by four men. (were any women present at any time? She was a nursing mother, by the way, with a six-week-old baby.

Lee Oswald himself had Walker’s NAME and PHONE NUMBER in his address book. But he also had the name and phone number of FBI agent James Hosty in his address book. We cannot know what Lee thought of anyone simply through a name or phone number.

On July 27, 1963, Lee Harvey Oswald, at the behest of his cousin, Eugene Murret, would deliver a speech to the seminarians at the Jesuit House of Studies, Spring Hill College in Mobile, Alabama. Robert J. Fitzpatrick quoted Oswald as follows:
“Americans are apt to scoff at the idea that a military coup in the U.S., as so often happens in Latin American countries, could ever replace our government. But that is an idea that has grounds for consideration…The case of General Walker shows that the Army, at least, is not fertile enough ground for a Far Right regime to go a very long way”. [Oswald Quote ref: [FBI DL 100-10,461 WRH/gm]]

In JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, Jim Douglas stated the following about Oswald’s speech and his mentions of Walker:
“Oswald was familiar with the case of General Edwin Walker, an army general relieved of his command by the Kennedy administration for indoctrinating his troops with an anti-communist program of speeches and literature. After he was admonished for propagandizing his soldiers, [and sent to a mental hospital by Bobby Kennedy…note by JVB], Walker resigned from the army and retired to Dallas, where he became a leader in the anti-communist John Birch Society…In his speech notes, Oswald dismissed the danger of an army coup led by a demagogue such as Walker as being too unwieldy.” (Ref: ).

Judyth Baker wrote:
We believe Lee was dedicated to saving Kennedy from the likes of Walker and his plotting associates. Lee successfully infiltrated an assassination ring in New Orleans, then in Dallas, and eventually garnered enough information, we believe, to save Kennedy in Chicago. As can be read in ME & LEE: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee harvey Oswald, Lee told me, Judyth Vary Baker, that he had saved Kennedy’s life in a different city and hoped to do the same in Dallas, and to that end was being joined by an “abort team.”

According to the statements of Abraham Bolden in his book THE ECHO FROM DEALEY PLAZA and the material in James Douglass’ book JFK AND THE UNSPEAKABLE, an informant named “LEE’ contacted the FBI barely in time to save Kennedy’s life: armed men were arrested in Chicago. Dr. Mary Sherman had important contacts, having lived most of her life in the Chicago area (see Edward T. Haslam’s book, DR. MARY’S MONKEY, for more information about Mary Sherman, Lee Oswald and Judyth Baker).

by Judyth Vary Baker

In Part One, we established that it was highly unlikely that Lee Oswald was ever involved in the General Edwin Walker assassination attempt occurring in Dallas some seven months prior to the Kennedy assassination on April 10, 1963.

Lee H. Oswald was never considered a suspect until after his widow, Marina, was questioned, under suspicious circumstances and without any outside protection from threats, including deportation threats, which we now know influenced her testimony significantly. Even though the Warren Commission assured her she would not be deported, previous to that, Marina had been threatened, during interrogations by the FBI, with deportation if she did not cooperate (viz: Vol. I, p 79, Vol. I, p. 410). With Oswald dead, Marina faced possible arrest and execution had she been deported back to the USSR, with her American-born infant left behind, to say nothing of what might have happened to her Soviet-born toddler.

Now that you’re alert to how cleverly evidence and witnesses can be manipulated, let’s move on to look at more evidence in the Walker shooting case, showing how Lee Oswald very likely had nothing to do with the incident at all. It’s a long journey, but at its end, you’ll see a dozen more examples of an almost fiendish will to convict Lee Oswald using every possible kind of deception, and you will be an expert at how these deceptions were used to frame Lee Harvey Oswald.

Let’s start with a blatant lie created by the Warren Commission:

The Magic Bullet was supposed to be responsible for creating seven distinct sites of damage to muscles, rib bones and wrist bones, before somehow exiting Connally’s body in the operating room to land onto somebody else’s stretcher out in the hallway. the bullet was copper-jacketed. The “Magic Bullet” CE399 (above and right, below) is compared to “The Walker Bullet” –as so labeled by The Warren Commission. But there are huge problems with this bullet. ORIGINALLY, THE COMPOSITION OF THE BULLETS’ JACKETS DIDN’T MATCH –BUT YOU’D NEVER KNOW IT FROM THIS PHOTO!

Despite the photo above, the bullet recovered in the Walker incident by the Dallas police was described as not as copper-jacketed, but as steel-jacketed. HERE IS THE POLICE REPORT:

Furthermore, the composition of the “Walker bullet” as reported as analyzed by 3/27/64 did not match the composition of a bullet fragment found in the Kennedy limo attributable to a bullet fragment supposedly only able to have come from Oswald’s rifle.

This April 10, 1963 report is in the Warren Commission exhibits, stating that the bullet was of ‘unknown caliber” and “steel jacket.” The Commission stated that CE573 –The copper jacketed bullet shown above with CE399 (The “Magic Bullet”) was “the Walker bullet” — even though Walker himself – an eyewitness when the bullet was recovered in his own house–disagreed vehemently. You can read his letter here. Walker to the FBI:
“The bullet before your select committee called the Walker bullet is not the Walker bullet. It is not the bullet that was fired at me and taken out of my house by the Dallas City Police on April 10, 1963. The bullet you have was not gotten from me or taken out of my house by anyone at anytime.”

Walker then sends a mailgram to Blakey that the bullet recovered was nothing more than a hunk of lead that didn’t even resemble a bullet:
“The bullet used and pictured on the TV by US Senate G.Robert Blakey Committee on Assassinations is a ridiculous substitute for a bullet completely mutilated by such obstruction, b[e]aring no resemblance to any unfired bullet in shape or form.

I saw the hunk of lead, picked up by a policeman in my house, and I took it from him and I inspected it carefully. There is no mistake. There has been a substitution for the bullet fired by Oswald and taken out of my house.”

The Warren Commission told Walker he was wrong, and then told the American people that the bullet known as CE573 was the one that Oswald shot at Walker.

What did Walker have to say about this? First, Walker believed that Robert Kennedy used Lee Oswald and a second person to shoot him — two men were seen by a witness Walker trusted as leaving the scene that night in a car, at high speed. Researcher Gil Jesus has compiled the written objections concerning CE573 that Walker made. They are stunning.

Gil Jesus continues:
In a June,1979 letter to a deputy AG, Walker’s attorney noted his client’s experience with weapons and ammunition: “It is more probable than not that a person of this experience would know and recognize the bullet that was fired at him when he and the Dallas police retrieved and examined the spent bullet at the time of the attempted assassination on him. For these reasons I feel that it is of some weight that the Select Committee and the Department of Justice consider his opinions with respect to the possibility of substituted evidence in the House Committee investigation.”

The Jan. 12, 2012 discussion on Education Forum added this important bit of information by researcher Martin Hay: “Walker’s belief is, of course, supported by the Dallas Police report which describes the actual bullet as “steel jacket”. (24H39). What is just as interesting, and less well known, is that the Walker bullet was actually metallurgically distinct from the JFK assassination bullets. The assassination bullets had a lead core in which antimony was the major impurity. CE 573 on the other hand had a lead core with tin as the major impurity. The reason for this is that the lead core of bullets is usually made from scrap lead because it’s the cheapest lead available. This lead is often hardened by alloying it with antimony. However, during World war II, there was a shortage of antimony and tin was used instead”.

So CE 573 and the assassination bullets were from different batches made at completely different times – the former during WWII and the latter during the post-war period.

Gil Jesus responded lengthily about a troubling batch of problems about how this bullet actually came into the hands of the Dallas Police: There’s more problems with this piece of evidence. The bullet was also described as a 30.06.

And there are problems with the chain of custody. Commission Exhibit 1953 is the FBI report on the Walker shooting.

In that report, TWO DIFFERENT DETECTIVES CLAIMED TO HAVE FOUND THE BULLET !!!! (McElroy and Norvell ) It also claims that Lt. Day received the bullet from Det. B.G. Brown and took it to the Dallas Police Crime Lab at Parkland Hospital for an identification. The bullet remained there from April 25th to December 2, 1963 at which time it was released back to Lt. Day. The FBI got the bullet on December 4th, but didn’t turn it over to the Commission until March 21, 1964.

The interesting thing in this document is the reference to the discrepancies in the police reports on page 18.

Officer B.G. NORVELL found the bullet. . . and it was given to Det. B.G. BROWN, Crime Laboratory Division .

Over a year later, on May 28, 1964, Detective DON MCELROY advised he found the bullet and turned it over to Officer BROWN .

On the same date, Officer BROWN stated he obtained the bullet from officer NORVELL.

Officer TUCKER, on June 2, 1964, and former Officer NORVELL, on June 3, 1964, both stated NORVELL found the bullet and he, in turn, gave it to McELROY, who said he would take it or give it to the Dallas Police Department Crime Laboratory.

So Norvell says he found the bullet and gave it to Brown. McElroy says he found the bullet and gave it to Brown. Then, a few days later, Norvell changes his mind and says that although he found the bullet, he gave it to McElroy. This version is backed by his partner, Tucker. But Brown is already on record as saying he received the bullet from Norvell.

There’s major problems with this chain of custody not to mention the fact that none of these officers were called to testify regarding the identification of CE 573 as the bullet they recovered.
Edited by Gil Jesus, 11 January 2012 – 03:58 AM.

The icing on this particular hunk of fake cake is this comment by researcher Hay:
“I was always intrigued by this exchange from Robert Frazier’s WC testimony”:
Mr. Eisenberg- Mr. Frazier, I now hand you a bullet in a pill box which is marked Q-188. I ask you whether you are familiar with this bullet.I would like to state for the record that this bullet was found in the Walker residence after the attempted assassination of General Walker.
Mr. McCloy- As far as you know, we have no proof of that yet?
Mr. Eisenberg- That is right (3H438).

More than one person was seen by a young witness at the time of the shooting, leaving the Mormon church parking lot immediately after a shot rang out. Here is what researcher Gil Jesus has to tell us about that witness:

Mr. JENNER. Who is Mr. Coleman? Do you know a man by that name?
Mr. SURREY. Not personally.
Mr. JENNER. Walker Kirk Coleman.
Mr. SURREY. As I just read on the back of your exhibit, he is the boy that reported seeing several automobiles at the time of the assassination.
Mr. JENNER. That is immaterial to this issue. ( 5 H 448 )

Walter Kirk Coleman was the 14-year old neighbor of General Walker. On the evening of April 10, 1963, he was working with his godfather building shelves in his room, when he heard a shot sometime between 9 and 10 pm. He immediately ran from his first floor bedroom and looked over a stockade fence into the Mormon church parking lot that adjoined General Walker’s property. He saw two men getting into two cars and leaving the parking lot. On June 3, 1964, FBI agents Robert Barrett and Ivan Lee interviewed young Coleman, he was able to describe the men he saw and the cars.

[Note by JVB: the Warren Commission ignored the fact that this young witness described two men who in NO WAY resembled Lee Oswald. I will show a section of the last page of the 3-page FBI interview first, just below:]

The “Walker Note”
Which brings us back to the final piece of evidence that is supposed to seal Oswald’s being the man who shot at General Edwin Walker: a note, written in Russian, where Oswald tells Marina what to do in case he is killed or arrested. The note is described as written for her guidance just before Oswald shot Walker, in case Oswald would be arrested or killed. For nearly fifty years, the American people have been told again and again that Oswald’s note proves he shot at Walker. It does no such thing. And I can tell you why.

The so-called “Walker note” has two pages, but only one has usually been shown in articles. Above, both pages are shown, with the translation provided by The Warren Commission. The handwriting seems to be Oswald’s and was identified as such. There are eleven items that Lee Oswald wrote to his wife. They are translated as follows.

1. This is the key to the mailbox which is located in the main post office in the city on Ervay Street. This is the same street where the drugstore, in which you always waited is located. You will find the mailbox in the post office which is located 4 blocks from the drugstore on that street. I paid for the box last month so don’t worry about it.
2. Send the information as to what has happened to me to the Embassy and include newspaper clippings (should there be anything about me in the newspapers). I believe that the Embassy will come quickly to your assistance on learning everything.
3. I paid the house rent on the 2d so don’t worry about it.
4. Recently I also paid for water and gas.
5. The money from work will possibly be coming. The money will be sent to our post office box. Go to the bank and cash the check.
6. You can either throw out or give my clothing, etc. away. Do not keep these. However, I prefer that you hold on to my personal papers (military, civil, etc.).
7. Certain of my documents are in the small blue valise.
8. The address book can be found on my table in the study should need same.
9. We have friends here. The Red Cross also will help you [Red Cross in English].
10. I left you as much money as I could, $60 on the second of the month. You and the baby [apparently] can live for another 2 months using $10 per week.
11. If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we always passed on going to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing
the bridge).

Marina testified that she originally found this note in her husband’s “private room” which was the size of a large closet. She had been told not to enter the room. However, it was Ruth Paine who ‘found’ the note for the Warren Commission, tucked away, she said, in a book the police somehow had managed not to confiscate.

Researcher Gil Jesus has worked hard to understand just what “the Walker Note” really meant. His research on the subject is important:
“The Commission concluded that Oswald attempted to kill General Walker on April 10, 1963. It was important for the Commission to show that Oswald was the shooter in order to prove that Oswald had a propensity for violence.
In its report the Commission stated:
“….on April 10, he attempted to kill Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army), using a rifle which he had ordered by mail 1 month previously under an assumed name. Marina Oswald learned of her husband’s act when she confronted him with a note which he had left, giving her instructions in the event he did not return. .” ( Report, pg. 14 )

The Commission based its conclusion on 4 “facts”, the first of which was the note.
“Based on (1) the contents of the note which Oswald left for his wife on April 10, 1963, (2) the photographs found among Oswald’s possessions, (3) the testimony of firearms identification experts, and (4) the testimony of Marina Oswald, the Commission has concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to take the life of Maj. Gen. Edwin A. Walker (Resigned, U.S. Army) on April 10, 1963.

The finding that Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to murder a public figure in April 1963 was considered of probative value in this investigation, although the Commission’s conclusion concerning the identity of the assassin was based on evidence independent of the finding that Oswald attempted to kill General Walker.” ( ibid. pg. 187 )

Commission Exhibit 1 is the note Oswald allegedly left for his wife. It was written in Russian. ..

The Discovery of the note
On November 30, 1963, Ruth Paine discovered two Russian language books, one of which was a housekeeping book whose title translated as “the Book of Helpful Instructions”. There are several problems with this piece of evidence, not the least of which is the fact that
1) it makes no reference to the attempted killing of General Walker and
2) the note is undated.

Problem # 3: The contents of the note
Several different items referred to in the translation which make no sense to me.
Item # 2 says, “Send the information as to what has happened to me to the Embassy and include newspaper clippings ( should there be anything about me in the newspapers ). ” But Marina Oswald could not read English-language newspapers ( 2 H 489 ) and would not have known which clippings to send. Why would the Soviet Embassy in Washington care about an American citizen being arrested for killing another American citizen ? It wouldn’t. So it makes no sense.

[NOTE BY JVB: But Gil Jesus does not know about what else might have caused Lee Oswald to worry about being arrested. I have my own explanation as to why this note was written, which can account for this statement. It is found after the remainder of Gil Jesus’ article, below.]

Item #5 says that Oswald’s paycheck would be sent to their post office box. He instructs her to go to the bank and cash it. But Oswald’s checks from Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall were not mailed. In fact, the checks were issued on Wednesdays and found their way back to the bank on Fridays. Commission Exhibit 1174 is a copy of 26 of Oswald’s paychecks from Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. It is found in Volume 22 of the hearings. On page 286 are the last 3 of Oswald’s Jaggars checks. Note that the top one was cashed at the Mart Liquor Store on Ervay St. ( yellow box on right )

You’ll notice also all of those checks also took only two days to make it back to the bank, regardless of where they were cashed. This means that Oswald’s checks were not mailed. Since Oswald had been terminated at the time this note was allegedly written could he have been referring to his last paycheck only? I don’t believe so because it too required only two days to clear the bank (red squares) and for this LAST check to have been mailed, the dates on the bank stamp would have reflected the additional time required to cash the check. Speaking of stamps, if you look at the stamp on the left side of the last check, issued on April 10th, the month is marked as MAR. Besides, how was Marina Oswald going to cash a check made out to her husband ?

Another item in the translation I have a problem with is # 9, where Oswald says that the Red Cross will help you…..
[NOTE BY JVB: “Red Cross” might refer to the way Lee was helped with a loan to return to the US and/or may be a code to remind Marina to contact the same officials who made the transit to the US from the USSR financially possible. Gil Jesus considers only the US Red Cross organization, which is probably not what Lee meant, if Lee indeed wrote this note.]

A third item in the translation that makes no sense is Item # 10, Oswald’s notifying Marina that “I left you as much money as I could, $60 on the second of the month”. If you look at Oswald’s next-to-last paycheck, it wasn’t issued until April 3rd and wasn’t cashed until April 5th. And if he left the $60 from the March 27th check of $ 74.38, how did he pay the rent, the gas and the water ( which he said he paid in the note ) with only $ 14.38 ?

Problem # 4: Marina’s contradictory statements about the note
Marina Oswald told several conflicting and contradictory stories to the Warren Commission concerning the Walker incident. One example of those contradictory stories concerned the note. Commission Exhibit 1785 is the report of interviews by the Secret Service with Marina Oswald regarding the note:

On December 2, 1963, Marina Oswald was interviewed by Secret Service Agent Leon Gopadze by telephone at which time she “disclaimed any knowledge of such note” ( underlined in red, above ). The following day, however, Marina Oswald was interviewed in person by Gopadze and Unum Brady in person and shown the note. At that time, she changed her story from the previous day and said that the note was written by Oswald prior to his shooting at General Walker (underlined in blue). This report also states that Marina said that the note was left on top of a dresser in their bedroom (green underline). But in 1964, Marina told the Warren Commission that the note was located in Oswald’s “private room”. ( Report, pg. 187 ) In 1978, Marina was completely uncooperative with the House Select Committee on Assassinations, which questioned her on details of the note:

[Note by JVB: in her testimony, Marina now backs away from knowledge of the note and the Walker shooting to which it had been linked. Gil Jesus goes on:]
“Marina’s answers to the questions posed to her by the HSCA were vague and evasive. She had made contradictory statements to authorities about WHERE she had found the note and what she had done with it after she found it. By the time she appeared before the HSCA, her memory of the details of the note was all but gone.

Problem # 5 : The Location of the Note
Oswald had a private room in their Neely St. apartment where he conducted his “fantasy” business. Marina described it in testimony:
“… Lee had a small room where he spent a great deal of time, where he read—where he kept his things…” ( 1 H 13 )
“….he told me not to enter his room. I didn’t know about these photographs, but when I came into the room once in general he tried to make it so that I would spend less time in that room. I noticed that quite accidentally one time when I was cleaning the room he tried to take care of it himself.” ( 1 H 14 )
“Sometimes he would lock himself in his room and write in the book.” ( 1 H 17 )
“My husband had a small room where he kept all that sort of thing. It is a little larger than a closet.” ( 5 H 390 )

That Oswald had NOT left the note FOR MARINA becomes apparent when one reads her testimony, in which she admits that she went into his “private room” and discovered the note.

Mr. RANKIN. How did you first learn that your husband had shot at General Walker?
Mrs. OSWALD. That evening he went out, I thought that he had gone to his classes or perhaps that he just walked out or went out on his own business. It got to be about 10 or 10:30, he wasn’t home yet, and I began to be worried. Perhaps even later. Then I went into his room. Somehow, I was drawn into it–you know–I was pacing around. Then I saw a note there. ( 1 H 16 )

[Note by JVB: It is my theory (explained in detail later) that Lee wrote the note in case he would be arrested and killed, but, not expecting such an outcome as probable, kept the note where she would not find it unless such an emergency actually developed. That emergency would have been precipitated by something else Lee had to do, at a time close to the date of the Walker incident, as will be explained later.]

Returning to Gil Jesus’ fine essay:
The Commission, in its report, admitted that Marina found the note in Oswald’s private room, which she was told to stay out of : “…she had found the note in Oswald’s room, where she had gone, contrary to his instructions, after she became, worried about his absence.”( Report, pg. 405 ) If the note was meant for her eyes, why would he leave it in a room he told her to stay out of ?

Problem # 6: The lack of fingerprints [Note by JVB: would they be too old to find?}
One would think that had the note been handled by both Oswald and Marina, the note should have contained the fingerprints of at least one, if not both of them. But that’s not the case. On December 3, the note was sent to FBI Headquarters, where it was examined by the FBI’s fingerprint expert, Sebastian Latona. Latona reported to his superiors that although he found SEVEN latent fingerprints on the note, they were “not identical with fingerprints of Lee Harvey Oswald or Marina Nikolaevna Oswald”.

One might ask how the Warren Commission handled this evidence — it suppressed it. When Latona testified before the Commission,he was never asked about the fingerprints on the note. He was never asked if the FBI had tried to identify the fingerprints found and was never asked to give a perfectly good reason why neither Oswald’s nor his wife’s prints were on it. In addition, this report was never included in the Commission’s 26 volumes of evidence and testimony.

The lack of Marina’s fingerprints is on the note is significant, because without them there is no evidence that Marina’s version of how she discovered it, her confronting Oswald with it and what she did with it afterwards is in question. All of these things required her handling the note, of which, sans the fingerprints, there is no evidence. I’m not saying she didn’t handle the note. I’m saying that there is no physical evidence that she did.

[Note by JVB: But I contend that the note was written after the Walker incident, after Lee had paid the bills and just before his final check came in the mail, to which, I believe, he is referring. If this note was written AFTER the Walker incident, we can then account for a number of things that Gil Jesus would not have considered.]

We have seen Gil Jesus’ concern about the last check. It is mis-stamped with March and issued April 10th. The signature on the back of the check is not quite right, either, for some of us who notice such details. Some have declared that this check was created to take the place of the original check, which might indeed have been mailed, but which then would place THE WALKER NOTE at a possibly LATER DATE. And we couldn’t have anyone suspecting that the note was written for some other purpose, could we? Perhaps it was.

In my book, Me & Lee (see my website where you can order it HERE) I explain what Lee told me about an assignment he was given shortly after Walker was attacked by a shooter. You can find supporting evidence for what I wrote here:

You’d be surprised how much detail on Lee’s life is available. For example, Mary Ferrell’s chronology chronicles a great deal of Lee’s life. Ferrell’s chronology assumes, however that Lee shot at General Walker.

Ferrell writes:
April 7, 1963 (Sunday) – Oswald goes to the vicinity of General Walker’s home with his rifle. He buries the rifle in a field nearby. (WC Vol 23, p. 402)

The problem with this, of course, is that burying the rifle is a highly unusual way to hide a rifle. Why didn’t Oswald simply bring it home again, wrapped in the raincoat in which he was supposed to have brought it, to begin with, to the Walker residence area by bus? Asked about when Oswald did target practice, she naively answered that he shot at leaves in the park (against the law and again, highly unlikely). Three days later, Oswald supposedly removed the rifle from its buried location, cleaned off the raincoat– and then took a shot at walker –all this without anyone seeing him–even the 14-year-old eyewitness who saw two men, neither resembling Lee Oswald, departing quickly in two separate cars right after the shot was fired.

Even Ferrell suspects that Ruth Paine might have supplied this piece of evidence on cue: “As this note is very damning to Oswald, why did he not get it back to destroy it as he did his notebook [this is what Marina told investigators—that Oswald had a notebook, as well, that he destroyed—JVB] with the plans of the Walker attack? (WC Vol 23, p. 391) Marina hides the note in a cookbook. (WC Vol 23, p. 827) “Book of Helpful Instructions.” (WC Vol 22, p. 766; WC Vol 23, p. 392)

It was found (?) by Mrs. Michael Paine on 11/30/63 in one of two books which she was returning to Marina through the Arlington police on 12/2/63. (WC Vol 22, p. 779; WC Vol 24, p. 47; WC Vol 25, p. 723).

Ruth Paine has an interesting connection to the termination of Lee’s employment at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, sometimes used as a benchmark to prove that Lee Oswald was becoming unstable, having lost his job or terminating it himself (reports vary, but termination is the usual story).

Ferrell writes:
April 2, 1963 (Tuesday) – Michael Paine goes to 214 W. Neely to meet the Oswalds for the first time and to take them to Mrs. Paine’s Irving home for dinner. He and Oswald discuss General Walker, among other topics while waiting for Marina and the baby to get ready. At Mrs. Paine’s request, Oswald writes down the address and telephone number of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. (WC Vol 26, p. 543)

One might ask why Ruth Paine would request this information. The next thing we know, Lee, known to have enjoyed his job and to have worked overtimes on Saturdays, which belies later reports that his work was no good, will either lose his job there or will resign. By Monday, April 8, Lee applied for another job at the Texas Employment Commission, two days after Ruth Paine invited Marina to live with her “rather than return to Russia.”

Ferrell shows Oswald paid the water and gas bill with a deposit made April 8. When Oswald, in the note he wrote (apparently) to Marina, said he paid the gas and water bills “recently” it means, therefore, that the note was written not only after April 8, but also that at least a couple of days had passed. The word assumes a passage of time beyond just one day past the day of the payment. This brings the date of the note up to at least April 10. The Walker attack occurred on April 10. But wait—there’s more.

The note said: Ferrell’s item 11: “If I am alive and taken prisoner, the city jail is located at the end of the bridge through which we have always passed on going to the city (right in the beginning of the city after crossing the bridge).” (WC Vol 16, p. 2)

So Lee expected to be arrested or even killed. But was the note written because he was going to shoot Walker? Let us review what Mary Ferrell writes next (ignoring her belief that Oswald shot at Walker):

April 10, 1963 (Wednesday, around 9:00 p.m.) – Oswald shoots at General Edwin Walker from a distance of 35 to 40 yards and misses. (WC Vol 24, p. 40)
The police were called at 9:10 p.m. (WC Vol 26, p. 753)

Walter Kirk Coleman, (erroneously called Newman) 14, 4338 Newton, sees two cars leave from the alley behind General Walker’s house. (WC Vol 1, p. 36; WC Vol 22, pp. 756, 762, 888; WC Vol 23, p. 772; Dallas Morning News, 4/11/63, p. I-1; Dallas Morning News, 4/12/63, p. I-5; Dallas Times Herald, 4/11/63, p. A-1; Dallas Times Herald, 12/6/63, p. A-1; Dallas Morning News, 12/7/63, p. A-1; Dallas Morning News, 12/19/63, p. A-7; Dallas Morning News, 1/1/64; Life, 2/21/64, p. 75)

Witness Walter Kirk Coleman, 15, 4338 Newton, sees white male, 19 to 20, 5′ 10″, 130#, dark bushy hair, thin-faced with a large nose, real skinny, get into a white or beige 1950 Ford after the shooting on the Morman (sic) Church parking lot.

Witness Coleman also sees a white male, 6′ 1″, about 200#, wearing a dark, long- sleeved shirt and dark trousers, get into a 1958 black-over-white, two-door Chevrolet, and both the Ford and Chevrolet leave the parking lot. (WC Vol 23, p. 761) Witness Coleman notices a Renault, or some foreign-made car, parked next to the Chevrolet. Coleman believes it belongs to the Church caretaker.

There is a meeting at the Mormon Church on this evening. (WC Vol 23, pp. 763- 764; WC Vol 26, p. 753), 7:30 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. Scott Hansen, the son of the Mormon bishop, recalls a black-over-white 1958 Chevrolet and remembers seeing it on a previous Wednesday evening.

Mrs. Marian Ross Bouve, who is General Walker’s neighbor on the other side from the Church, has a watchdog that is sick for two days. She believes it was drugged or poisoned. (WC Vol 23, p. 767; WC Vol 24, p. 41; WC Vol 26, pp. 437, 439)

A witness describes two men, neither resembling Lee Oswald, as associated with the shooting. This reminds us how witnesses at the Tippit shooting described two men who did not resemble Oswald. In both cases, such witnesses were ignored b y the Warren Commission. Again and again, we hear the verdict “the witness must have been mistaken” in this case.

Next, we learn information that is not mentioned by those who say Oswald shot at General Walker:
April 11, 1963 (Thursday) – Mrs. Michael Paine visits Marina and takes Marina to her Irving home. (WC Vol 2, pp. 393, 453; WC Vol 9, p. 359; WC Vol 24, p. 693)

Ferrell speculates that Marina had tried to commit suicide, after which the record shows a fight occurred, with Oswald striking his wife and neighbors complaining. At about the same time, a recently divorced man – Gary Taylor –visited Marina, which could have caused Oswald’s fury to ignite.

That Sunday, April 14, George and Jeanne deMohrenschildt came to visit for the last time before leaving for a trip east, and then on to Haiti. Later, they will tell the Warren Commission they saw a rifle in a closet at the Oswalds. By now, Marina says that the rifle, which she says Oswald once again had buried OR hidden in bushes, after shooting at Walker, is now back in the apartment. Note: the only people ever to have asserted that they ever, at any time, saw a rifle in Lee Oswald’s possession were these three persons. Not even Ruth Paine had ever seen it.

Lee told me he put in a request to transfer –possibly on that same day –to New Orleans after being ordered (by deMohrenschildt?) to put a sign around his neck and hand out pamphlets and flyers in a pro-Castro demonstration on a Dallas highway. Lee told me he feared for his life through such an assignment, because Walker had recently been shot at. However, he realized that if he turned down the assignment, he could be under suspicion as a turncoat spy. Reluctantly, he agreed to accept the assignment.

However, Lee still feared he could be shot at by police as he stood there, due to their hyper-sensitivity after the Walker incident. Or, barring that, he knew he could be arrested and that the Dallas police, if they learned that he had lived in the USSR and had been a ‘defector’ were so radical that they might well beat him to death or shoot him.

Lee told me he told his handler(s) that he could more good in establishing himself as pro-Castro –his original long-term assignment– in his native city, New Orleans, where active anti-Castroites would take notice. At the same time, Marina would have Oswald’s family members nearby to help protect her. Question: Did Lee make this request through George deMonhrenschildt?

Such a fear could have prompted Lee to write the UNDATED note. It would also explain why Lee did not think the note was worth destroying, since he did return safely from his pro-Castro demonstration.

Ferrell reports on Lee’s pro-Castro demonstration thus:
April 16, 1963 (Tuesday) – Oswald writes to the Fair Play for Cuba Committee New York office. He says that he passed out their literature on the street the day before and requests that they send him some more. By giving his Dallas address, does Oswald indicate that he had no plan to move from Dallas, which he does on April 24?
(WC Vol 10, p. 87; @C Vol 20, p. 511; New York Times, 12/9/63, p. C-38; Life, 2/21/64, p. 76)

Note that April 15 (the day before) neatly fits the “recently’ we saw in the note regarding when he paid the gas and water bill. Also, though Lee had requested to be transferred to New Orleans, he had not yet received approval for the transfer. Lee would avoid exposing the fact that he had first been ordered to make a pro-Castro demonstration in Dallas well before his activities in New Orleans. Lee hid the Dallas demonstration from the Dallas police, only mentioning his New Orleans activities. Writes Ferrell:

On 11/24/63, Oswald says that he first became interested in the FPCC in New Orleans. (WC Vol 24, p. 479)

We have additional evidence that Lee did go through with the Dallas pro-Castro assignment, impractical and dangerous as it was, but it is buried in the Ferrell chronology. Only because I was particularly concerned about the reason for the note was I able to realize the importance of this almost buried evidence that Lee made a pro-Castro demonstration, incurring danger to himself, only five days after Walker was shot at, giving us a possible date for the note of April 14 or 15. This correlates with the following information offered by Ferrell, who also estimates that the incident occurred on the 15th:
April 15, 1963 (Monday) –
Oswald passes out Fair Play for Cuba Committee literature on Main Street in Dallas. Oswald had a ‘Viva Castro’ sign around his neck. The police report (5/15/64) says this happened in late spring or early summer at Main and Ervay in front of H. L. Green store entrance. (WC Vol 22, p. 796; WC 23, p. 477; WC Vol 25, p. 681; Dallas Times Herald, 12/9/63; Life, 2/21/64, p. 76)

In the face of the Warren Commission, the FBI, the CIA and interrogations in another language, Marina ‘s responses suggest she may never have regarded the note as important. Confronted with it by interrogators after it was “found” by Ruth Paine. Marina conceded that the note had to do with the Walker shooting , even though it was undated and the dangerous Viva Castro demonstration on Main Street had been conducted shortly after.

Marina told several versions of her story about the Walker incident, beginning with telling investigators she thought Lee went to a typing class the same night – April 10—that Lee supposedly shot at Walker. Marina said she found the note late that night, at about 11 PM. First, she said, she found it on a dresser in the bedroom; later, she said she found it in Lee’s ‘closet room.’ She said Lee arrived home about an hour later – too late, we believe, to have used a bus as claimed —we can find no records of bus services between Dallas and Oak Cliff area that late at night.

Mary Ferrell writes:
Marina says that Oswald took different buses to and from General Walker’s house. (WC Vol 23, p. 402; WC Vol 24, p. 48; WC Vol 25, p. 730). Marina says that Oswald claimed he walked to General Walker’s and came home on the bus. (WC Vol 22, p. 756; WC Vol 23, p. 391).

Why Oswald would walk that distance, when bus services were available, then ride a bus back, seems illogical. He had the funds for a bus ride. Marina’s story demonstrates how little we can trust her report until we have better information about such matters as bus services that night.

Even Ferrell noticed the “typing class” excuse was a poor one, since the class did not meet on Wednesday and Lee left too late to be going to the typing class.
She writes:
Marina says: 1. Oswald returns to their apartment for supper and leaves between 7:00 p.m. and 7:30 p.m. (WC Vol 1, pp. 35, 37) 2. She thinks that Oswald has gone to his typing class. (WC Vol 23, p. 391) (Oswald attended this class on Monday, Tuesday and Thursday, not Wednesday. And, he had not attended since 3/28/63. The class met between 6:15 p.m. and 7:15 p.m.

Fortunately, we can again extract the date of April 15—the day after the deMohrenschildt visit – as the day Lee carried out the Viva Castro! assignment he told me about:

April 21, 1963 (Sunday) – The FBI gets a report in June that Oswald passed out FPCC literature in Dallas, but it probably only happened on Monday, April 15. The FBI is told of the contact by Oswald of the FPCC New York office. (WC Vol 4, p. 446; WC Vol 5, p. 9; WC Vol 17, p. 773; WC Vol 26, p. 94)

Interestingly, this report was given to the FBI the day after the Oswalds entertained Ruth Paine at a picnic. It seems Paine keeps getting connected to the “evidence chain”:

April 20, 1963 (Saturday) – The Oswalds take Mrs. Michael Paine to Lake Cliff Park for a picnic. (WC Vol 2, p. 456; WC Vol 9, p. 350; WC Vol 24, p. 692).

Lee’s dangerous assignment only a few days after the Walker shooting could have provided the real basis for the undated note Marina said was connected to the Walker shooting. Considering the pressure Marina was under, we can forgive her saying whatever might have been expected of her, but it is startling that neither Ferrell nor anyone else ever noticed, across the span of five decades, that the act of carrying out a pro-Castro demonstration so soon after the Walker incident might have worried Oswald as to its consequences —enough to have impelled him to write such a note– yet, after the assignment was completed, the note was not important enough to seek out and destroy.

The point is important: Lee Oswald did not think the note was important enough to destroy. Surely he would have destroyed such a note if it had been truly linked to the Walker incident. Marina says he destroyed notebooks related to the Walker incident. Ferrell never made the connection, and the Warren Commission conveniently forgot to notice. THEY EVEN LEAVE IT OUT OF LEE’S CHRONOLOGY. Why are we not surprised?


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JFK: Oswald in the Doorway – An Opinion Survey

Richard Charnin
April 5, 2015
Updated: Oct.16, 2015

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The purpose of the 20 questions in this post is to gauge the OPINIONS of readers as to whether or not they believe that Oswald was”Doorman” standing on the first floor (Top level) of the entrance to the Texas Schoolbook Depository at the time of the assassination.

I believe the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was Doorman. The best way to gauge the opinions of those who may or may not agree is to compare their YES or NO answers to mine.

On May 5, I posted the survey on John McAdams’ JFK assassination forum – a disinformationist hang-out. As of May 8, there were 182 views and 37 posts in the thread, but not ONE individual has taken the survey. What are they afraid of? That the “litmus test” would reveal the implausibility of their belief that LHO was not Doorman?!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/9rar6nNazGg

One individual (Mr.X) took the survey (below). His responses were evasive. I specifically asked for a YES or NO answer to each question, but he failed to do so. This was not a court trial.

1: Assume Oswald was in front of the TSBD at the exact time of the assassination. If so, do you believe that’s why Det. Fritz’s notes (Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”) were hidden for 30 years? Yes or No?
X. Not solid proof of anything.
RC. I did not ask for proof, just an opinion – assuming the hypothetical that Oswald was in front of the TSBD.

2: In his WC testimony, Lovelady was asked to point to himself  in the Altgens6 photo by placing a DARK arrow in the DARK area. The head of  the arrow appears to be pointing to Doorman who was standing on the TOP level. Frazier also placed an arrow pointing to Doorman. However, both Lovelady and Frazier stated multiple times under oath that Lovelady was standing in FRONT on the STEPS – not on the TOP level. Do you find this suspicious?
X. Why don’t you provide us with the picture so we can decide for ourselves what it “appears” to show?
RC. The picture is the Altgens 6 photo in the original post I linked to above.

3: If a photo, video, document or witness testimony had to be altered or fabricated to convict Oswald, do you suppose it would have been?
X. That is definitely a possibility.
RC. Of course it is a possibility, but do YOU think the evidence would have been altered or fabricated?

4: If a witness could confirm that Oswald was standing out front, would he/she be allowed to so testify?
X. What witness are you talking about? Or is this hypothetical?
RC. ANY witness. It is a hypothetical. I am just asking for your opinion.

5: If a witness called to testify could confirm that Oswald was out front, would he/she be asked the question?
X. Same as above.
RC. Same answer. It’s a hypothetical. I am just asking for your opinion.

6: If a witness was a participant in the conspiracy and saw Oswald out front, would he/she be allowed to say so?
X.This is speculative psychology. What is the point?
RC. No speculative psychology. I am just asking for your opinion.

7: TSBD witnesses were not asked directly if they saw Oswald out front. Would it have been a logical question to ask?
X. If they considered it a possibility, they should have asked.
RC. Of course it was a POSSIBILITY. Therefore your answer should be YES.

8: Oswald told Will Fritz that he was OUT FRONT WITH BILL SHELLEY. The Warren Commission concluded that he ran from the 6th to the 2nd floor lunchroom in 75-90 seconds, He was allegedly seen by officer Baker and Roy Truly holding a coke but not short of breath. It’s a 10 second walk from the first floor entrance to the 2nd floor lunchroom. Do you believe that Oswald told the truth to Fritz since he already had an alibi (he saw Bill Shelley out front)?
X. It’s possible that Oswald was out front, but no photograph yet discovered can prove this.
RC. Yes, it’s possible (see Altgens6). But do you believe LHO told the truth to Fritz?

9: Lovelady died in Jan. 1979 (during the HSCA investigation) from “complications” due to a heart attack. The probability of a 41 year old white male dying from a heart attack was approximately 1 in 10,000. Lovelady did not testify at the HSCA. Do you believe he should have been called?
X. I don’t understand the question. Was Lovelady an important witness? Would they have called Lovelady to testify at the HSCA? How many other TSBD witnesses did they call? ZERO. They didn’t seem too concerned with that end of the case at that point.
RC. Not true. They called Frazier. Like Frazier, Lovelady was an important witness.

10: Many JFK researchers believe that Oswald was framed but insist that he is not in the Altgens6 photo. They claim that no one testified they saw LHO out front and that Doorman “looks like” Lovelady. But is that a sufficient response? Doorman also “looks like” Oswald. Note that Doorman’s open long-sleeve jacket/shirt (open in a V to reveal his tee shirt) is the same shirt Oswald wore at the police station. And it is different from the shirt Lovelady was wearing.
X. There is not enough visual evidence to conclusively use the shirt as a source of identification.
RC. But are the responses sufficient to just say “it looks like” Lovelady or that no one testified that they saw LHO in front?

11: Is it just a coincidence that TSBD witnesses are not clearly shown in Altgens6?
X. What do you mean “not clearly shown?” How about giving us photographic examples?
RC. I specifically said the Altgens6 photo. “Not clearly shown” means that the identity of the witnesses in Altgens6 are indecipherable (blurry and whited out).

12 Do you believe the Oswald backyard photos were fakes?
X.They seem fairly consistent to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were altered. It is a possibility.
RC. They were proven to be fakes. But do YOU believe they were?

13: Do you believe the Z-film was altered?
X. Definitely a possibility.
RC. The Z-film has been proven to be altered. But do YOU believe it was?

14: Is there at least a possibility that Oswald is Doorman?
X. I don’t believe Oswald was Doorman, but there is not enough evidence to prove it. So,I would have to say “I don’t know.”
RC. “I don’t know” means YES, it is possible that Oswald was Doorman.

15: Do you believe Carolyn Arnold, a TSBD secretary, was mistaken in her statement that she saw Oswald was on the first (i.e. ground) floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm?
X. She could have been mistaken. Happens all the time.
RC. But she could have actually seen Oswald. What is your best OPINION?

16: Do you consider it odd that Arnold was not interviewed by the Warren Commission?
X. A lot of potentially valuable witnesses were not interviewed by the Warren Commission.
RC. The question referred specifically to Carolyn Arnold. She was not just ANY witness. She was CRITICAL since she claimed Oswald was on the first floor – not the 6th – FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOTING.

17: At the 2 minute mark of this video, a balding figure who looks like Billy Lovelady appears at the lower right of the screen facing the TSBD. He is wearing a checkered shirt buttoned to the collar. No tee shirt is visible. It is NOT the shirt that Doorman was wearing. Do you agree that it appears to be Lovelady?
X. It does appear to be Lovelady.
RC. If it is Lovelady, then his closed shirt proves that he cannot be Doorman.

18: In the Altgens6 photo, Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve shirt open to reveal his tee shirt. An FBI photo of Lovelady taken 2/29/64 shows him wearing a short-sleeve striped shirt that he supposedly wore on 11/22/63. Given the discrepancy, does the fact that Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve shirt seem odd to you?
X. Not enough visual evidence.
RC. That was not the question. I asked if it is ODD that the FBI claimed Lovelady wore a short-sleeve shirt and Altgens6 showed Doorman in a long-sleeve shirt.

19. Naysayers claim that Lovelady must be Doorman because no TSBD employee claimed to have seen Oswald out front. Since the FBI concluded within a few hours of the assassination that Oswald killed JFK, do you believe that the FBI/WC would inhibit witnesses from testifying that they saw Oswald in front, destroying their case?
X. What is the point of speculating in this way?
RC. It is reasonable to ask if testimony which completely exonerated Oswald would be allowed at the WC. If witnesses were inhibited from saying they saw LHO out front, then that is just additional proof the WC/FBI was determined to frame Oswald.

20: Lovelady and Frazier both testified multiple times that Lovelady was standing on the STEPS in front of Frazier who was standing on the TOP level (the first floor entrance to the TSBD). Since Doorman was standing on the TOP level, do you agree that their joint testimony is powerful evidence that Lovelady could not be Doorman?
X. Maybe they moved around?
RC. No. The Altgens6 photo was taken at 12:30 – the EXACT time of the shots.

My answers vs. those of Mr.X:
1. YES. Did not ask for proof, just opinion.
2. YES. The Altgens6 photo is included in the post.
3. YES. A photo,video or document that proved Oswald was innocent would have been altered,destroyed or hidden.
4. NO. Evades the question (any witness)
5. NO. Evades question
6. NO. Evades question
7. YES. Evades question.
8. YES. Not asking for proof, just opinion.
9. YES. Simple question.
10 NO. Evades the fact.
11.NO. Altgens6 is altered. You have the photo, not an example.
12.YES.The backyard photos are proven fakes.
13.YES. Evades the question.
14.YES. Evades. Of course it is possible.
15.NO. Evades: Do you believe Arnold was mistaken?
16.NO. Evades.The WC would not call her since it destroys their case.
17.YES. I agree. It does appear to be Lovelady in the video.
18 YES. Evades. Doorman was wearing a long-sleeve shirt.
19.YES. No speculation. What is your opinion?
20.YES. Evades the question which is about the Altgens6 photo.

– The Timing of the Encounter with Oswald
The FBI reported that Carolyn Arnold saw Oswald after she had left the TSBD. According to the first account, she had left the building by 12:15; according to the second, she left at 12:25. The first statement, which she was not given the opportunity to check, is likely to be less reliable than the second, which she was required to sign.
Both of Carolyn Arnold’s statements, but especially the second, corroborate the accounts of two employees, James “Junior” Jarman and Harold Norman, who indirectly attested to Oswald’s presence on the first floor at “between 12:20 and 12:25,” in Jarman’s words (see Lee Harvey Oswald’s alibi).

The Earliest Report of Oswald’s Alibi
Two FBI agents, James Hosty and James Bookhout, attended Fritz’s first interview with Oswald. They wrote a joint report on 23 November, from notes taken on the 22nd which no longer exist:
OSWALD stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the second floor where the Coca–Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca–Cola for his lunch. OSWALD claimed to be on the first floor when President JOHN F. KENNEDY passed this building. … he then went home by bus and changed his clothes.(WR, p.613)
Hosty’s and Bookhout’s joint account of the first–day interview is the earliest surviving account of Oswald’s alibi. It implies this sequence of actions:
At “approximately noon” Oswald ate his lunch in the domino room on the first floor.
He then went up to the second floor, where he bought a Coke from the vending machine in the lunch room.
Finally, he went downstairs and was on the first floor when JFK came past.

The Second FBI Version of Oswald’s Alibi
The earliest report contains no mention of Oswald being stopped by a police officer, as Fritz would later report. Once Oswald was dead, however, Bookhout alone wrote a new account of the first–day interview, which did include an encounter with a policeman:
OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca–cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. MR. TRULY was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. OSWALD stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees’ lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home.(WR, p.619)

This version omits Oswald’s claim to have been on the first floor at the time of the assassination. Two events which had originally been reported to have occurred before the shooting, Oswald’s purchase of a drink and his eating his lunch, now occur after the shooting:
Oswald bought a Coke in the second–floor lunch room.
Moments later, he encountered Roy Truly, the TSBD’s building supervisor, and Marrion Baker, the motorcycle policeman who ran into the TSBD within half a minute of the shooting. Oswald then went downstairs and ate his lunch in the first–floor domino room.

Finally, Oswald chatted with his foreman for a few minutes before going home.
The official account of Oswald’s activities has him leaving the TSBD at 12:33, just three minutes after the shooting (WR, p.156), which implies that at least one element of Bookhout’s revised account is incorrect. Oswald must have eaten his lunch before, not after, the assassination. Many accounts by TSBD employees mention that they stopped work and began their lunch break at about 11:45 or 11:50. Two of Oswald’s colleagues make it clear that Oswald did indeed eat his lunch before the assassination:

– Was ‘Prayer Man’ Lee Harvey Oswald?
Prayer Man’s location, at the top of the steps, suggests that he is unlikely to have been a passer–by. He is more likely to have been someone who worked inside the TSBD building, as were the fourteen witnesses known to have been standing in the doorway during the assassination. All of the TSBD’s white, male, manual workers, except for Oswald, were accounted for. A process of elimination indicates that Prayer Man may have been Oswald. Of the fourteen witnesses, seven women and two black men may be ruled out immediately. The remaining five white men may also be ruled out with varying degrees of certainty.

– Did Officer Baker and Roy Truly encounter Oswald on the 2nd floor?
Why didn’t the WC question Baker about the affidavit in which he stated that he saw a man who did not match Oswald’s appearance on the third or fourth floor walking away from the stairwell? There was no mention of encountering anyone in the 2nd floor lunchroom.
TSBD manager Roy Truly said the man worked at the TSBD. According to Occhus Campbell, Vice-President of the TSBD, Oswald was seen near a small storage room on the first floor shortly after the shooting.

– Look closely to see the difference in the figure in front from the original Altgens6 Oakland Tribune photo and the Groden version.

– Proof that the AP and the FBI were actively involved in altering the Altgens6 photo is revealed in this memo:

Note this GIF appeared in the original post:

– The shirt Oswald was wearing in police custody was open in a V to reveal his Tee shirt – just like that of Doorman in the Altgens 6 photo.


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JFK: Impossible timings

JFK: Impossible timings

Richard Charnin
Jan.21, 2015

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I. Oswald Superman: from the 6th floor to the 2nd in 75 seconds

Oswald told Will Fritz of the Dallas PD that he was “out with Bill Shelley in front” of the TSBD. The Fritz notes were not mentioned by the Warren Commission and were hidden from the public until 1997.

If Oswald was lying to Fritz, what was his motive? After all, he already had an alibi: he was seen on the second floor 90 seconds after the shooting by TSBD manager Roy Truly and policeman Marion Baker. He was holding a coke and not out of breath. If Oswald was not on the 6th floor, why would he not be out front watching the motorcade? And how would he know Bill Shelley was out in front unless he saw him there?

Carolyn Arnold, a secretary working for the Texas School Book Depository, provided support for Lee Harvey Oswald’s alibi. She said that he was on the first floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm, five minutes before the assassination.

II. Oswald Superman: Walks 0.8 mile in two minutes to shoot Tippit

According to at least 10 eyewitnesses, J.D. Tippit was shot dead no later than 1:06pm. But the Warren Commission ignored the witnesses and claimed that Tippit was killed at 1:16. Since Oswald was seen standing outside his apartment at 1:04 (0.8 miles from the scene of the murder) he had to run 24 mph to get to the scene. The track record for a mile is 3.7 minutes (16 mph). The Warren Commission had no choice but to add ten minutes to the time of the murder to get Oswald to the scene in 12 minutes. But that was standard operating procedure for the Commission; witness testimony and evidence which proved Oswald’s innocence was ignored or altered.

This is the SMOKING GUN:
The insert shown above is taken from the actual Certificate of Death, Tippit’s name was misspelled, but the document clearly shows the time and date of death. There is no way Lee Harvey Oswald shot a “living” J.D. Tippit at either 1:15 or 1:16pm. That statement by the Warren Commission was an outright lie. A lie expressed for the sole purpose of deceiving the American public. The Warren Commission had the Tippit documents in their hands, they knew the “legal” time of death, they knew Oswald couldn’t have shot Tippit at 1:15 or 1:16pm, and yet they still chose to tell the lie.

III. Oswald Quickfinger: The Double-bang

In the article The Guns of Dealey Plaza John S. Craig lists 22 individuals who testified they heard a “double bang”: the final two of three shots occurred nearly simultaneously.

If Oswald was the only shooter there would have been at least 2.3 seconds between shots, assuming he used the telescopic sight found on the Mannlicher Carcano.

The Warren Commission’s official conclusion concerning the “Number of Shots” states that all the shots were fired from the sixth-floor window at the southeast corner of the Texas School Book Depository Building. The Commission stated that a consensus among witnesses at the scene was that three shots were fired, though some heard two shots and others heard four and as many as eight shots.

Numerous descriptions of the last two shots by so many witnesses leaves doubt as to whether Oswald was physically capable of firing both of the shots that so many characterized as being shot almost simultaneously, if not “automatically.”

It was the Commission’s belief that (a) one shot passed through the President’s neck and caused all of Governor Connally’s wounds, (b) a subsequent shot hit the President’s head, (c) no other shot struck any part of the automobile, and (d) three shots were fired with one missing, though which one missed is unknown. “Two bullets probably caused all the wounds suffered by President Kennedy and Governor Connally. Since the preponderance of the evidence indicated that three shots were fired, the Commission concluded that one shot probably missed the Presidential limousine and its occupants, and that the three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately 4.8 to in excess of seven seconds.”

FBI tests for the Warren Commission found that a 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano, bolt-action rifle, Model 91/38 required a minimum of 2.3 seconds to fire two shots. The HSCA made tests in which the telescopic sight was removed to see how fast the rifle could be fired without aiming. Its tests resulted in firings of 1.65, 1.75, and just over two seconds. The only way that the rifle could be fired this quickly was to simply maneuver the bolt action as fast as possible and shoot. The tests were not done with Oswald’s Mannlicher Carcano. Whether Oswald’s rifle was in a condition where it could be tested is questionable since “the pressure to open the bolt was so great that we tended to move the rifle off the target,” according to one of the Warren Commission testers”.

IV. 100,000 to 1 odds that acoustic shot timings matched Z-film

The conclusion of four separate shots then coincides with 4 impacts visible in the Z-film, and the reactions therein. The acoustic impulses were retested in a 2001 investigation (‘Echo Correlation Analysis and the Acoustic Evidence in the Kennedy Assassination Revisited’ ) by D.B. Thomas and published in the Journal Science and Justice., Vol. 41, p. 21, 2001. The impulses are shown below, with the four highest amplitude peaks associated with rifle muzzle blasts (an association I will justify subsequently):

Thomas treated both the test evidence and actual data from the original date- aware of the same misgivings that Sabato now claims. Thomas’ re- test evidence was obtained in August, 1978 when a test shot was fired in Dallas’ Dealey Plaza to provide a fiducial mark for the putative Grassy Knoll shot – such that it could be compared with the impulse record obtained on Nov. 22, 1963 and also how this mark lined up to events recorded on the Zapruder film. Thus, the test evidence (mainly in terms of echoes and echo delay times received via an echogram from a test shot (See Fig. 1) is essentially used to confirm the microphone recording & positions for the shots made on the actual date, by resort to microphones placed at the same (or approximately so) locations.

The hypergeometric p-function was used for differing weighting factor distribution sets, H{M..N, n, i} to assess significance or likelihood of occurrence. It’s based on the no. of echo ‘windows’ M, with each spanning 190msec (total time) at 2msec width per window and n for assigned impulses in the evidence pattern, with ‘i’ the “coincident impulses” or those matching the original (11/22/63)evidence and the test result. The question was whether a succession of first impulses of given amplitude could be manifesting a signal or was merely random noise. Thomas found that for a given configuration for 2 motorcycles at designated locations, 1 for (GK) shooter location and one for alignment of muzzle blasts with one pair of echoes, the p -value is 0.000012 or about 1 in 100,000 against the null hypothesis, i.e. that the impulses were from random noise. An alternative way to put this is that the odds are 100.000 to 1 in favor of the impulses comprising actual rifle shots.

V: Improbable Timing of Witness Deaths

Suspicious deaths spiked in 1964 (Warren Commission) and in 1977-78 (HSCA). In 1977, seven top FBI officials due to testify at HSCA died in a 6 month period, five from heart attacks, one from an accidental gunshot and one from an accidental fall.

7706 LOUIS NICHOLS Former #3, responsible for JFK investigation; heart attack
7706 REGIS KENNEDY Confiscated films of assassination; heart attack
7708 JAMES CADIGAN Document expert; died from a fall in his home
7708 ALAN BELMONT Liaison to Warren Commission; natural causes
7710 J.M. ENGLISH Head of Forensic Sciences Laboratory; heart attack
7710 DONALD KAYLOR Fingerprint chemist;bogus Oswald “print” on rifle; heart attack
7711 WILLIAM SULLIVAN Headed Division 5 (Counter-espionage); Gunshot accident

The timing of the 7 deaths is powerful proof of a conspiracy beyond any doubt, since it is focused on a specific group within a very short time interval. The HSCA did not mention any of these deaths in its claim that the London Sunday Times actuary’s 100,000 trillion to one odds of 18 material witness deaths in three years was invalid.

For each of the four scenarios, we calculate probabilities assuming a) 7 heart attacks, b) the official cause of deaths (5 heart attacks, 2 accidents); c) 4 homicides and 3 heart attacks; d) 7 homicides. The official cause of death may not be the actual cause; heart attacks and cancer can be induced. In order to calculate the probability of witness deaths we need the mortality rates for each cause of death.

Some WC defenders have suggested that FBI officials are more prone to heart attacks. Let’s eviscerate that canard right here by executing a sensitivity analysis to determine the overall probabilities assuming 20 FBI were sought to testify and 7 died (5 from heart attacks, 2 from accidents). We run three scenarios of FBI heart attack mortality 1) equal, 2) double and 3) triple the overall population mortality rate. The results are clear. In the worst case scenario (FBI heart attack mortality is triple the population) the probability of the 7 deaths is 1 in 100 billion.

1977 mortality rates

0.004137 Heart Attack
0.000488 Accident
0.000092 Homicide
0.003094 Official weighted rate: 5 heart attacks, 2 accidents
0.001826 Speculative weighted rate: 4 homicides, 3 heart attacks

The probability of n deaths among N witnesses over T years, given mortality rate R, is P = POISSON(n, T*N*R, false)

Assume N=20 FBI were called to testify at HSCA.

Scenario I: 7 heart attacks (reference illustration)
P= 3.95E-14= POISSON(7,.5*20*.004137, false)
Probability: 1 in 25 trillion
Assume an impossible 100 FBI were called to testify.
P= 3.6E-10 or 1 in 2.7 billion.

Official Cause of Death
Scenario II: 5 heart attacks, 2 accidents

P= 5.23E-15= POISSON(7,.5*20*.003094, false)
Probability: 1 in 190 trillion

Speculative Scenario III: 3 heart attacks, 4 homicides
P= 1.32E-16= POISSON(7,.5*20*.001826, false)
Probability: 1 in 7000 trillion

Speculative Scenario IV: 7 homicides
P= 1.11E-25= POISSON(7,.5*20*.000092, false)
Probability: 1 in 9 trillion trillion

All 7 heart 5 heart/ 3 heart/
FBI attacks 2 accid. 4 murders 7 murders

08. 6.63E-17 8.72E-18 2.18E-19 1.81E-28
20. 3.95E-14 5.23E-15 1.32E-16 1.11E-25
30. 6.61E-13 8.79E-14 2.23E-15 1.89E-24
100 2.61E-09 3.61E-10 9.56E-12 8.61E-21

THREE SCENARIOS: FBI heart attack mortality vs. national rate

Assume 20 FBI officials were called to testify at HSCA. Even if FBI heart attack mortality is triple the national rate, the probability of 7 deaths in 6 months is still infinitesimal: 1 in 100 billion.

Probability Sensitivity Analysis

...Rate.........Probability (assumption)
1- 0.003094 5.23E-15 1 in 190 trillion (FBI heart attack rate equal to national)
2- 0.006049 5.54E-13 1 in 1.8 trillion (FBI 2X national)
3- 0.009004 8.70E-12 1 in 100 billion (FBI 3X national)

These graphs are mathematical proof of a conspiracy.


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