April 5, 2015
Updated: May 8
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The purpose of the 20 questions in this post is to gauge the OPINIONS of readers as to whether or not they believe that Oswald was”Doorman” standing on the first floor (Top level) of the entrance to the Texas Schoolbook Depository at the time of the assassination. https://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/10137/
I believe the evidence is overwhelming that Oswald was Doorman. The best way to gauge the opinions of those who may or may not agree is to compare the YES or NO answers to mine.
On May 5, I posted the survey on McAdams JFK site which is a disinformationist hang-out. As of May 8, there are 182 views and 37 posts in the thread. Not ONE individual has taken the survey. What are they afraid of? That the “litmus test” would reveal the implausibility of their belief that LHO was not Doorman?https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/9rar6nNazGg
The replies from the poster Mr.X are given below. His responses were evasive. Although I specifically asked for a YES or NO answer to each question, he failed to do so. This was not a court trial.
1: Assume Oswald was in front of the TSBD at the exact time of the assassination. If so, do you believe that’s why Det. Fritz’s notes (Oswald said he was “out with Bill Shelley in front”) were hidden for 30 years? Yes or No?
X. Not solid proof of anything.
RC. I did not ask for proof, just an opinion – assuming the hypothetical that Oswald was in front of the TSBD.
2: In his WC testimony, Lovelady was asked to point to himself in the Altgens6 photo by placing a DARK arrow in the DARK area. The head of the arrow appears to be pointing to Doorman who was standing on the TOP level. Frazier also placed an arrow pointing to Doorman. However, both Lovelady and Frazier stated multiple times under oath that Lovelady was standing in FRONT on the STEPS – not on the TOP level. Do you find this suspicious? Yes or No?
X. Why don’t you provide us with the picture so we can decide for ourselves what it “appears” to show?
RC. The picture is the Altgens 6 photo in the original post linked to above.
3: If a photo, video, document or witness testimony had to be altered or fabricated to convict Oswald, do you suppose it would have been? Yes or No?
X. That is definitely a possibility.
RC. Of course it is a possibility, but do YOU think the evidence would have been altered or fabricated? YES or NO?
4: If a witness could confirm that Oswald was standing out front, would he/she be allowed to so testify? Yes or No?
X. What witness are you talking about? Or is this hypothetical?
RC. ANY witness. It is a hypothetical. I am just asking for your opinion.
5: If a witness could confirm that Oswald was standing out front and was allowed to testify, would he/she be asked the question? Yes or No?
X. Same as above.
RC. ANY witness. It is a hypothetical. I am just asking for your opinion.
6: If a witness was a participant in the conspiracy to make LHO the patsy and saw him out front, would he/she say that he was? Yes or No?
X.This is speculative psychology. What is the point?
RC. No psychology. It is a hypothetical. I am just asking for your opinion.
7: Neither Lovelady, Shelley or others were asked directly if Oswald was out front. Would it have been a logical question to ask. Yes or No?
X. If they considered it a possibility, they should have asked.
RC. Of course it was POSSIBLE. Therefore your answer should be YES.
8: Oswald told Will Fritz that he was OUT FRONT WITH BILL SHELLEY at 12:30. Oswald was seen at 12:31 in the 2nd floor lunchroom by officer Baker and Roy Truly holding a coke. He did not show shortness of breath. The Warren Commission concluded that he ran from the 6th to the 2nd floor in 75-90 seconds. It’s a 10 second walk from the first floor entrance to the 2nd floor lunchroom. Do you believe that Oswald told the truth to Fritz, since a) he already had an alibi (Bill Shelley, who was not asked by the WC if LHO was out front) and b) he was seen by Truly and Baker at 12:31. Yes or No?
X. It is possible that Oswald was out front, but no photograph yet discovered can prove this.
RC. Yes, it is possible – see Altgens6. But do you THINK LHO told the truth to Fritz? YES or NO.
9: Lovelady died in Jan. 1979 (during the HSCA investigation) from “complications” due to a heart attack. The probability of a 41 year old white male dying from a heart attack was approximately 1 in 10,000. Lovelady did not testify at the HSCA. Do you believe he should have been called? Yes or No?
X. I don’t understand the question. Was Lovelady an important witness? Would they have called Lovelady to testify at the HSCA? How many other TSBD witnesses did they call? ZERO. They didn’t seem too concerned with that end of the case at that point.
RC. But he was an important witness. Do you THINK he should have been called? YES or NO?
10: Many JFK researchers who believe that Oswald was framed insist that he is not in the Altgens6 photo and no one testified seeing LHO out front. They say that Doorman “looks like” Lovelady. But is that a sufficient response? Doorman also “looks like” Oswald and Doorman’s open long-sleeve shirt (with a V-neck tee) is different from the one Lovelady was wearing. Yes or No?
X. There is not enough visual evidence to conclusively use the shirt as a source of identification.
RC. Is it a sufficient response to just say “it looks like” Lovelady? YES or NO.
11: Is it just a coincidence that the TSBD witnesses are not clearly shown in Altgens 6? Yes or No?
X. What do you mean “not clearly shown?” How about giving us photographic examples?
RC. “Not clearly shown” means one cannot discern the identity of the witnesses.
12 Do you believe the Oswald backyard photos were fakes? Yes or No
X.They seem fairly consistent to me, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were altered. It is a possibility.
RC. They have been proven fakes. But do YOU think they were? YES or No?
13: Do you believe the Z-film was altered? Yes or No?
X. Definitely a possibility.
RC. It has been proven as altered. But do YOU think it was? YES or No?
14: Is there at least a possibility that Oswald is Doorman? Yes or No?
X. I don’t believe Oswald was Doorman, but there is not enough evidence to prove it. So,I would have to say “I don’t know.”
RC. “I don’t know” means YES, it is possibile that LHO is Doorman.
15: Do you believe Carolyn Arnold, a secretary at the TSBD, was mistaken in her statement that Oswald was on the first (i.e. ground) floor of the TSBD at 12:25pm? Yes or No?
X. She could have been mistaken. Happens all the time.
RC. But she could have been right. What is your best OPINION?
16: Do you consider it odd that Arnold was not interviewed by the Warren Commission? Yes or No?
X. A lot of potentially valuable witnesses were not interviewed by the Warren Commission.
RC. But Arnold was not just ANY witness. She was CRITICAL since she claimed Oswald was on the first floor – not the 6th – FIVE MINUTES BEFORE THE SHOOTING.
17: At the 2 minute mark of this video, a balding figure who looks like Billy Lovelady appears at the lower right of the screen. He is facing the TSBD and wearing a checkered shirt buttoned to the collar. No tee shirt is visible. It was NOT the shirt that Doorman was wearing. Do you agree that it appears to be Lovelady? Yes or No? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XNHtUDEDAI
X. It does appear to be Lovelady.
RC. Your answer is YES. His closed shirt proves that he cannot be Doorman.
18: In the Altgens6 photo, Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve shirt open to reveal his tee shirt. An FBI photo of Lovelady taken 2/29/64 shows him wearing a short-sleeve striped shirt that he supposedly wore on 11/22/63. Given the discrepancy, does the fact that Doorman is wearing a long-sleeve shirt seem odd to you? Yes or No?
X. Not enough visual evidence.
RC. But is it ODD that the FBI claimed Lovelady wore a short-sleeve shirt and the Altgens6 photo showed Doorman wearing a long-sleeve shirt? YES or NO.
19. Naysayers claim that Lovelady must be Doorman because not one TSBD employee identified Oswald out front. The FBI concluded within a few hours of the assassination that Oswald, a deranged communist Lone Nut, killed JFK. Could the FBI have inhibited Warren Commission TSBD witnesses from testifying that they saw Oswald in front of the TSBD? YES or NO
X. What is the point of speculating in this way?
RC. Simply this: Do you believe the WC/FBI would allow testimony clearing Oswald?
20: Lovelady and Frazier both testified multiple times that Lovelady was standing on the STEPS in front of Frazier who was standing on the TOP level (the first floor). Since Doorman was also standing on the TOP level, do you agree that their joint testimony is powerful evidence that Lovelady could not be Doorman? Yes or No?
X. Maybe they moved around?
RC. No. The Altgens6 photo was taken at 12:30 – the EXACT time of the shots.
My answers vs. those of Mr.X:
1. YES. Did not ask for proof, just opinion.
2. YES. The Altgens6 photo is included in the post.
3. YES. A photo,video or document that proved Oswald was innocent would have been altered,destroyed or hidden.
4. NO. Evades the question (any witness)
5. NO. Evades question
6. NO. Evades question
7. YES. Evades question.
8. YES. Not asking for proof, just opinion.
9. YES. Simple question.
10 NO. Evades the fact.
11.NO. Altgens6 is altered. You have the photo, not an example.
12.YES.The backyard photos are proven fakes.
13.YES. Evades the question.
14.YES. Evades. Of course it is possible.
15.NO. Evades: Do you believe Arnold was mistaken?
16.NO. Evades.The WC would not call her since it destroys their case.
17.YES. I agree. It does appear to be Lovelady in the video.
18 YES. Evades. Doorman was wearing a long-sleeve shirt.
19.YES. No speculation. What is your opinion?
20.YES. Evades the question which is about the Altgens6 photo.
Oswald in the Doorway deniers also claim that there was not enough time to alter Altgens6. That is a canard.There was a window of opportunity. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/22/jfk-the-cartha-deloach-fbi-memorandum-and-the-altgens6/
Note this GIF appeared in the original post:
The shirt Oswald was wearing in police custody is open in a V to reveal his Tee shirt – just like that of Doorman in the Altgens 6 photo.